Jets pick 7th in 2025 draft!

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Jayden Daniels didn’t win 70% of his college games either.

    so 3 MVPs and the Rookie Of the Year all fell short of that baseline
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What a dumb marker to throw out.

    Stetson Bennett, Blake Sims and Jake Coker all won that percentage of games though.
     
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  3. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Like I said a BASELINE! Now, go tell me how many QB's have been drafted, in total, since the oldest of those three was drafted and get back to me.

    You are listing the EXCEPTIONS and NOT the RULE! Just killin' me over here! Maybe I can pull Payton Manning, Andrew Luck and a couple others out my ass to make the point.
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Valuing a college quarterback based on their winning percentage is dumb. Period, stop.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    It’s an incorrect way to evaluate. Besides Shadeur Sanders was 36-14 as a college starter - 72%. So he qualifies anyway
     
  6. mezzavo

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    I didn't say VALUE! Jesus Christ man. I said BASELINE!

    Example: Anthony Richards. Kid didn't win shit in college. And I mean shit. Top 10 draft pick because he could throw a football out of the building and jump through the roof. My BASELINE is, "Did Anthony Richardson WIN football games in college?" The answer is no. Now, there could be other compelling reasons. Coaching changes, program losing scholarships...on and on and on.

    If your baseline value, in a QB, isn't "has he won" then what the hell are we talking about here? If the kid didn't WIN in high school he's not going to get a look by colleges. If he didn't WIN in college then, if I'm an NFL guy, I start there and work my way up. Is it REALLY all that hard? Nowhere did I say that was the ONLY thing. Fuck, if a guy CAN'T WIN in college what makes you think they can WIN in the NFL? I can count the QB's on TWO hands, in the last 30 years, who didn't win shit in school and came into the NFL and smoked everyone. Unreal...
     
  7. mezzavo

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    Yeah, Shadeur Sanders is 13-13 playing for a school that counts. As far as I'm concerned, I don't want to hear about his record playing for 2nd/3rd tier schools. He was 4-8 in 2023 and 9-3 in 2024. Not exactly "lighting it up" in the win column. I'm really trying to understand what this "love" is for Sanders... Can someone explain it to me? If this kid's last name wasn't Sanders and his dad Deion, we wouldn't be HAVING this discussion. If he was Joe Smith with a Colorado record of 13 and 13 he wouldn't be listed as draftable. Probably a post draft signing.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I mean your post/point was still dumb and you can post these rage fits about how you’re right all you want. It was still a moronic thought that you keep doubling down on.

    Mahomes’s record in college was 13-15 as a starter. 46.43%

    Jake Fromm’s record in college was 36-7 as a starter. 83.7%
     
  9. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    A "coach's kid" that revived and turned around 2 football programs on life support would catch anyone's eye. Especially since he did it setting all-time records for completion percentage.

    But his dad is Neon Deion, a lightning rod of a man, so it actually hurts him more than it helps him
     

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