I think we need a fifth QB. I think we need a twelvth DB. I think we need a fifth TE (including Dressen) What we don't need: Depth at RB. Depth on the O line. Linebackers or defensive linemen. A proven WR. A GM who is running scared for his life.
If Leon keeps returning KO's, that depth will be ZERO at some point. If Leonard keeps returning punts, we'll need that 12th DB. Woodhead could have done both jobs and saved key players from unecessary injury.
Because Woodhead wasn't at risk for injury? Dude, seriously, just relax. I agree we have unbalanced depth, but your anger at dumping Woodhead is clouding your normally top-notch eye for this team.
OK... I admit it, I am quite pissed about Woodhead, but do we need 11 DB's more than Woodhead? A 3rd TE? A 4th QB? No FORKIN-FRACKIN-FLYIN way! Why not go after someone who can back up Mangold? or Jenkins? These pickups are at the very bottom of the trash heap, and don't fill needs or address positions where our depth is knee high in a wading pool. I honestly think Tannenbaum is just doing "stuff' to look like he's doing "stuff'. And he is hurting the team in his effort to keep his image and job, but that's just my opinion.
There HAS to be a reason for signing a 4th QB other than QB depth. I don't know what it is, but I'm thinking one of them is trade material or one of the QBs just may be released and O'Connell is the replacement. I don't know, but I can say it is interesting times......
I don't necessarily agree with you. I've never felt that Woodhead was going to contribute to this team, even on special teams. Of course, that's just my opinion. As for other signings, the TE turned out to be false information. We do have a lot of DBs, but there aren't many that are worth anything, so who knows how many will be around by the time our plane unloads in Houston. As has been said about the QBs, there has to be more to this. No way we're carrying 4 QBs, unless Clemens is badly hurt and will be on IR.
I only see the need for a WR and a DB. The rest of the spots are a wait and see. Running backs will provide the same numbers from last year and may get an up tick, if they use Leon more. The wide receivers; while I think need a go to guy, May just surprise everyone here. The D-line is stacked with great players and will go through the adjustment of committing a ton of penalties, based on being hyper aggressive. The d-backs haven't looked go for a while. Everyone just gushes over Revis and Ill agree he is good, but he’s has not had that break out season yet! Revis does make opposing teams throw to the opposite side, but he can still get burned every once and a while. Lets face it , there will be only one or two additions and tweaks here and there. This is basically the team we have going into this year and we will see where it takes us.
Yes, we need 11 DBs more than Woodhead. Yes to a 3rd TE as well. No to the 4th QB. I'll give you that one. As far as the DBs are concerned, and you're really concerned about numbers, think of it this way. You have 4 starters on the field at the position, so you're carrying a little less than 3 times those starters. You have one starting HB, you're carrying 3 times as many with Jones, Washington, and Greene. Just as those RBs cycle in, DBs cycle in via nickel and dime packages. Just because we're starting to run a bit of a RBBC approach doesn't suddenly mean that Leon needs his own personal backup. Woodhead doesn't see the field as a #4 RB, any more than an absurd 8th or 9th CB would. Either way, we'll be down to 6 corners and 4 safeties before long, which is a manageable number. I'm curious how this move "hurts the team" as you put it. Exactly how do you actually see Woodhead being used? Please name a high impact #4 RB in this league.
We don't want Leon Washington, one of the best in the NFL at kick returns, returning kicks? You're a fucking idiot.
No, we don't want Leon returning kicks. No offensive star in the league returns kicks as well. Not even Devon Hester, who is worlds better at returning kicks than Leon. If Leon is going to be more than a thrid down back he needs to drop the KR duties at somepoint. I think TBJ is a little pissed about Woodhead, but there was no need to call him a fucking idiot. As sick said, you jsut don't get it.
Hester returns punts but not kickoffs. Washington returns kick offs but not punts. I don't really see the difference. It would be ridiculous to NOT have Washington return kickoffs. As good and exciting as he is, he is a complementary running back, not Barry Sanders. As for the other stuff, you guys are getting all bent out of shape over the 50-53 spots on the roster - guys who will likely never see the field. Woodhead or some has been or some never will be receiver or the 9th OL or the 3rd string nose tackle are not going to lead this team to the playoffs. If the Jets have to go that deep into the roster, it means they were riddled with injuries and the season will be a losing one anyway.
Yeah, they are pretty much arguing over the type of players who will regularly be on the inactive list.
Agreed, which makes it spectacularly hilarious to suggest that Woodhead would be returning kicks and punts. There's no way we use 6 spots on the active game day roster for RBs.
I look at it this way. Woodhead COULD be the full time return man. I rememeber when Seahorn went down. I've NEVER been a believer in having a starter (or a key player like Leon) returning punts or KO's. Greene is hurting. He is really the only backup RB, as Leon, while not a starter (sometimes he starts) is a KEY part of the offense. He plays. Greene is a backup. We all know Jones is gone next year. Keeping a 4th RB here is not overkill. Ryan says he wants to run the ball more. Fine. Who gets the snaps in garbage time? Greene? And if any one of the 3 get hurt, then what? Use the 11th DB as an RB? Not to mention the injury risk of having Leon return KO's. I think any more than 9 DB's is just piss poor roster management. 4 starters. The nickel and dime DB's. That's six. The nickel and dime DB's are also backups to the 4 starters. Now you still have 3 DB's to spare. They are purely depth. We kept 11. Two wasted roster spots. What the hell is Coleman still doing here? I can buy into having 3 TE's plus Dressen. And another FB. I don't think we need 3 TE's, but besides the point. We sure as shit don't need 4 QB's.... this isn't TB, and even they unloaded one. I will also admit that there wasn't much out there as far as O line depth, but surely there has to be a better backup center out there than Turner. That would not be the sexy pick. Tanny wants to make sexy jiggly girly moves. He knows his job is on the line. His jiggling is cellulite. We need some meat. Oh, and firemanedjr.... you made me laugh. Thanks.
