I was trying to think about a mock draft and thinking about our team I came to the conclusion we almost don't have any real NEED (As in if we don't draft someone we are screwed). CB: Revis and Cromartie are solid starters and Lowery is a very good nickel.. plus he can also fill in if a starter gets hurt. Do we need other CBs? Sure! But as far as starters go we are in a pretty good position. OLB: Sure, Pace and Thomas aren't Ware's clones but they proved they can be a reliable duo. Could we gt an upgrade? Sure! But again our starters are solid... DL: Age here is the biggest problem. Ellis is 33 and Jenkins had 2 major knee operations at 31... but we have Ellis, Jenkins, DeVito, Pouha. This is maybe the only place in which we actually need a starter... I think a rotation between Ellis, DeVito and a rookie (Odrick? Cam Thomas? Alualu? Wottoon?) at DE can be effective and Jenkins + Pouha can hold their own rotating at NT. WR: Ok having a slot WR would be great but let's remember we are a run first team and we already have 2 pretty good starters in Edwards and Cotchery... a mid round guy will be just fine. RB: I don't really see a problem here... it's either Greene + Leon or Greene + 2nd rounder. I'm cool with both + C. Washington as a #3, but if LT is brought in... wow! With that said we need a starting DE and a slot WR (as starters)... after that we have the flexibility to go BPA since our starters ar at least up to their task in their respective roles. This is great Go Tanny!!! PS In our schemes I think it's pretty important to have 4 solid CBs so, in case we don't sign any veteran CB, getting a guy in the mid rounds is importatn too.
DE is an enormous need. More depth at LB, CB and DT would go a long way, as would a decent threat in the slot. Are any of these awful, debilitating holes? No; Tannenbaum et al have done a decent job of managing the roster in preparation for the second half a free agency and the draft. But they still need to be filled.
SUre, but what I wanted to emphasize is that the team overall is already very very solid... sure, help in the draft is welcome but except DL we are in an excellent position already.
Why are you making threads at 3AM when you're barely awake! I don't see any huge holes though, add some depth of both lines in the draft, find out what the hell we're doing with Kellen, maybe a WR and we're set.:up:
The Jets have two big needs, 1 is a slot receiver who can make plays in space, and 2nd is an edge rusher to help Pace. And even those are not incredibly pressing needs. I think the biggest thing Tanny needs to address now is the age on both lines. I think the Jets are somewhat high on both Wayne Hunter and Slauson on the o-line, but we could really use a young DE in the worst way, and a young DT to learn under Jenkins because Pouha is 31
The Jets still have plenty of needs. The Jets need a young front-line De(s). They still need a Safety, Poole is too fragile. The Jets still need an RB if they are going to run 500 plus times, Greene and LW can not handle that load. They also need a young OLB that can bring the pass rush. They need some young depth on the Oline. They need a 3rd Wr. I get worried whenever someone says the Jets have no true needs. True you are saying it within the framework of the draft and in regards to glaring holes. lol That doesn't mean I have to like that though.
it is very nice that the team has no glaring holes at any starting positions at this point so as far as needs in the first and second round? no we don't have anything that i think jumps out as the position we need to pick or we are screwed, which is a far cry from a few short years ago when we had to "reach" for brick. the team now has choices with that first rounder. we can with the best player available at one of our weaker depth positions or we can take somebody more flashy like golden tate. the option of trading down may be in the realm of possibilities depending on who falls to #29 and since there is no need to target one specific guy it would be very tempting to grab some extra picks for even more depth. as long as the jets don't end up draftig colt mccoy of something equally as dumb this draft seems like it is going to be a win no matter what.
Exactly. We most certainly have needs, just not a need for immediate starters at most positions. There's also the possibility still of Leon getting signed, which makes RB a HUGE need.
Great post, Mambo! The only positions I really see a hole at are slot receiver, defensive end, and punter. We don't have a proven guy after Edwards and Cotchery who are set on the outside. Marques Douglas is probably gone and won't be a starter much longer (if at all). I know a lot of people like Weatherford, but an elite punter paired with this defense can really help set up opposing offenses for 3-and-outs. I really can't think of anything else you can consider a hole on this team.
Clark Judge seems to agree with you: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13043328/jets-needs-cb-gap-filled-time-to-find-wr-greene-help?tag=coverlist_active;coverlist_photo ...and so do I. But, as others have said, depth all around is a concern. More specifically, IMO, at RB and DE/OLB. If we happen to sign LT, then we'll at least give ourselves some real room to work the draft and select BPA, which in this draft would be HUGE. I doubt we'll sign LT, though. So for me: RB S (Pool isn't the solution) DE/OLB (pass rusher) WR (depth) O-line (depth) DB (depth) D-line (depth)
The Jets don't care about depth. Tannenbaum as much as said that when he inferred he would just as soon give up the entire draft to get that one player they covet and use FA (which doesn't help this year) and late summer picks for anything else. Personally I think he is right. That is the approach they have used the last few years and it is working perfectly for him.
and i think he's going to do the same thing this year.i predict we only draft 3 players again this year
I don't think so. All of our actions so far (adding inexpensive players, trading Rhodes for draft picks, etc.) indicate that Tanny is placing an importance on obtaining depth this year.
or...........he's filling alot of hole to target the guy he wants.not saying your wrong just going with the pattern the last couple of years
Good summary. I think finding a reliable slot receiver is pretty high on the shopping list. If we're a run-first team, our pass-catchers still have to be solid. I like Coles for a 4th option but I'd also like to draft someone to be groomed for the future and for concussion-insurance. And maybe C. Washington is our 3rd RB, maybe not.. I haven't seen enough from him to have any idea. Here's my Christmas list, though most of it's been covered already, in this thread and others: DE - Someone to replace Douglas. I think this is the most glaring need. P - Weatherford made some big plays but he's still a below-average punter. DB - Maybe Lowery will be moved to safety, maybe not. Either way, we need another DB who can cover - either a FS or a nickel corner. OL - We need depth WR - Slot RB - If we let Leon go, we draft someone; if we don't, we don't. We still need a #3, but I think we can probably find someone outside the draft. OLB - Pace and BT are ok but we need a big-time pass-rusher. This is one of those go big or go home sort of things - not much point in drafting a "project". I think there are plenty of holes to be filled.
QB-Would like a veteran backup. RB-If we sign LT we are good. WR-If we don't sign Coles draft a #3. T-Some depth would be nice. C-A backup for Mangold would be nice. G-Faneca isn't getting younger. TE-Hartstock is a walking penalty machine. DT-Old, but good at this position. DE-We had only 1 starting DE who is already 32. ILB-Pretty solid for the future. However lack of depth. OLB-Pace is one of the best in the NFL and Thomas is average. S-Might need depth if Pool gets injured. P-I want a punter named Zoltan.
