Do you guys realize how big of a liabilty RT can become for the Jets? We have 1 guy on the roster that can play RT and that's Woody. The guy is 33 (born 1977) and although not having MAJOR injuries in his past (he did miss almost two seasons) he is still a 330lbs 33 year old guy... for how long will he hold together? Our only replacement ATM is Wayne Hunter... he is good at being the extra OL / blocking TE that comes in occasionaly but in no way can he play RT even for 1 whole game. Plus the Jets rely incredibly on their O-line... more than any other team in the league! If our starting RT goes down considering the backups we have how are we going to run to the right of our OL? Moore can't do it all by himself! Many of you are screaming to find a replacement for Faneca since he is a year older but he never had an injury and filling in at LG (especially between D'brick and Mangold) is much easier then at RT. Plus we already drafted Slauson (we all love Callahan as an OL coach, if he recruited him in college and then drafted him he must think something of the guy right?) and Turner is capable at G. Considering RTs are hard to come by in FA (see 49ers and GB) we have to draft one!!! My hope is we either try out Ducasse/Iupati at that position (and if they don't work out we can plug them in at LG in 2011) or acquire a rd 3 / rd 4 pick and get a T there (I'm high on Calloway from Iowa). What do you guys think? Is it more important to find a LG than a RT? Who is out there at RT? I'll throw in some names...: Trent Williams, Gabe Carimi, Sam Young, Kyle Calloway, Chris Scott, Kevin Haslam, Drew Davis, Mike Iupati (G), Vlad Ducasse (G), Adam Ulatoski, Mike Johnson (G) No way is Davies (Rutgers) there when we pick...
I agree, I don't want to wait until our line sucks to start rebuilding it, I wont guys ready to fill in. Mangold and D'Brick will be pro bowlers for the next decade, Moore will last another 4-5 years. RT probably is the biggest need.
33 isn't super old for an OT, especially on the right. While the LT needs to be quick, the RT just needs to be strong, which can last into the late 30's. Some of the top OT's in the league are older than him. That said, it would be nice to start developing a young guy to take his place in a few years. I just don't think it's a ZOMG pressing need that we have to spend a lot of value on (re: our first rounder, or our only allowable FA signing).
Agree -- RT is certainly a need. I love the idea of drafting Maurkice Pouncey from Florida in the 3rd round. It could solve a lot of issues ---- depth mainly. At 6-5, 318 he can play center, guard and right tackle. 2 problems --- most likely, he could go earlier in the draft & we need a 3rd round pick to get it done.
Pouncey will be the highest rated center in this draft. He'll more than likely go higher than round three. He's probably one of the more versatile offensive line prospects in 2010's class, so taking him in the second as a RT or G could be a good move.
I saw WW85's mock w/a similar idea -- Chris Hall from Texas who can play C, G & RT. But we've been drafting OL guys in the 6th for a few years now & we might need to go earlier.
Exactly. If we plan on getting players that will start sooner than later, we need to get them higher. Another guy to look out for his Chris Scott from Tennessee. He's gigantic (6'5 345) and he can play right tackle or guard. The guy's a tremendous run blocker.
That'd be a hell of a pick. He really held his own against some top tier SEC defensive linemen this season.
I know his stock has fallen but I think Ciron Black is a good fit, hes a big run blocker his pass protection is ok, but I think he could play RT or a Guard spot at the next level also he is extremely durable has played/starter in 50+ straight games
I'm on board. A versatile lineman at the top of the draft would be a great pick as far as I'm concerned. San Diego dlenda est!(3 hours, 4 minutes)
I'm a big Chris Scott fan and after reading the Chris Hall comment I was going to bring him up but you beat me to it. Scott is a great lineman that actually has experience starting at every OL spot, included center I'm pretty sure. In the NFL his skill set translates to RT, and he could be a nice pickup in the 3rd round for a team. Before the season I saw him as a 4-5 guy, but I don't see how he can slip to the 4th when you consider his talent, size/strength combo, and versatility.
I saw him going in the same rounds, but he really impressed me this season. Scott's going to be one of those guys that puts up big bench numbers at the combine. Dude's a flat out mauler. He'd be a valuable player, even as a developmental rookie, because he can fill in at both guard spots and right tackle.
I agree that OL depth in general is one of greatest needs, I also feel that our DE's are also old and we need more depth there as well. I would also love to see what this D could do if we could as a real pass rusher into the mix! It seems that on a lot of our blitz's that we are just a step or 2 late from getting a hit on the QB, A good pass rushing LB would make this D that much more disruptive! A lot of needs with our 1st 2 picks, but one thing that I know Ryan believes in is that you can never have too many great football players on your team regardless of position, He is probably going to lobby for the best value on the board regardless of position.
Don't forget that Scott also excelled on the left side this season, so showing the ability to dominate not just SEC lineman, but often teams' best passrushers is a big positive. RT is still a position often dominated by road-graters, but it's good to have that skill in the arsenal.
That just shows us what kind of athleticism he has. Scott could turn out to be a very, very good run blocking, pull guard.
I agree the Jets need to upgrade the O-line......but we're limited on picks. I'm not in favor of drafting an O-Lineman with our 1st 2 picks unless an incredible talent drops to us..like Iupati. IMO, Iupati is a lock for the Dallas Cowboys after that God awful O-line performance this weekend. No 3/4 round draft picks really hamstring the process.
I'm almost sure if the right RT prospect is there in rds 3 or 4 we'll find a way to get him... I wouldn't mind giving next years 3rd and this years 6th to a team if we can draft Scott or Calloway with that pick. I'd be also cool with trading down a bit in the first to acquire that extra 3/4 rd pick... whatever it takes! We need 3 picks in the first 4 rounds... I'm sure we'll find a way.
I'm at the point the Jets need to just take the BPA, within reason & need, at the end of rd 1. DE, DE/OLB, WR, OT/OG or S(if Rhodes is gone). If you asked me 6 weeks ago...NT would have been a priority in Rd 1, the emergence of Pouha and the D-Line has put that to rest. Another later rd NT would be fine, Kade Weston type.
