I usually bitch about the things the Jets do/have done, and that's not going to change because when you've been as consistently unsuccessful as they've been there's lots to bitch about. However, I do have to give them credit for taking a deep look into their injury epidemic this year: https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/jets-investigating-their-unprecedented-injury-crisis/ Of course it's possible that they just had a run of bad luck, but I don't think that's the case. And I don't think they do either since they're investigating it. My personal theory is that given the shitty way things were going, some guys just bailed, giving into injuries that under better conditions they would've played through. I'm not saying all of the guys who went on IR or sat out games did that, but I suspect more than a couple did, thus inflating the injury numbers. Whatever the cause, I truly hope they find it, and I give them credit for looking. And I really don't want Gase to be able to be given any more benefit of the doubt because of injuries.
The shitty conditions of making millions of dollars to play a child's game? Really a completely wild theory that I've not once heard of in the NFL. I'm sure if Gase created an environment this bad, it would've been looked into years ago. So we can file that one under unsubstantiated conspiracy theories with Big Foot and such. And on topic; so you and the article are saying that we were severely undermanned the entire season and still managed 7 wins? Wow.
I doubt guys got 'injured' because the team sucked and they didn't want to play. An NFL career only has so many seasons in it and being injured has a tendency to depress future earnings.
What's conspicuously absent in the article is who is doing the investigation and their qualifications. It seems like the best way to find the root cause of the problem, if indeed there is a somewhat common problem, is to have completely independent medical people do the analysis. That would avoid the tendency people have to cover their own asses. Off the top of my head I'd go with the theory that the varied injuries are purely coincidental but I'd also be interested in what condition these guys were in after the off season and things as simple as taping protocols, before and after signs of injury. There's also the old problem of people being pushed to perform when a bit of rest could prevent a small problem from turning into a big one. Self-identifying this type of behavior is not going to happen with only an in house study.
The Jets have been one of the most injured teams in the NFL over the last couple years, the difference is that this year it happened to the starters. Good on them looking into the strength and conditioning; I'm expecting a brand new staff.
The “wyatt” twitter person kept suggesting the Jets training staff is behind the times w Soft tissue injury treatments. The jets have had alot of issues with soft tissue stuff dating back to Rex.
Joint injuries (ACL, ankle, ect) seem unavoidable. But soft tissue (muscle) injuries like a pulled hammy, groin, bicep, are well within the control of the trainers and conditioning. I'd look just as hard at players who are 'gassed' at the end of the half or the 3rd qtr. From snap to whistle the avg player only plays 6-8 minutes during the entire 3 hour game.
Last couple? I was under the impression that the team had a pretty good record compared to the league norm until this season and that the S&C team were well regarded in league circles. A lot of the IR decisions were business based (Trumaine) and were preexisting ones that reoccurred (Q) so not sure this is anything other than bad luck really. Mosely is the one big question mark. That seems to have been handled poorly or had some confusion around it at least. As others have speculated the Jets seem to be undertaking some fan base PR and the injury issue has been raised by fans in many places. This may be nothing more than a puff piece to tell the fans they are looking into it.
I don't think so. I expect there will be changes. The strength & conditioning coaches are holdovers from the Rex era. And the training staff? forget about it, some of those guys have been there 15, 20 years. Gase & Douglas are gonna want to bring their own guys especially after this dreadful year of injuries, fair or unfair to judge these training guys based on that. I do think its a good idea. There needs to be new voices in that training room. It is possible they are outdated. I know many of them have worked here since before the new CBA. The new CBA brought changes to how often the players can practice, hit and train. I believe they haven't adapted as well as other organizations
It could be a puff piece, but I hope that it's more than that. With how many injuries they had this year, I think it merits looking into, regardless if they've had the best record in the NFL previously with injuries. The number this year was abnormally high, and I can't credit it to just bad luck. I believe that what many call "luck" is often a result of actions/decisions that were made. Some define "luck" as when preparation meets opportunity. In this case, it could be that either the training staff wasn't prepared (latest or better techniques) or the players weren't prepared (in great condition) or both. I'd be shocked if players were dogging it.
Valid point, but that said, guys have been known to not put out 100% when disgruntled, and I suspect some might even fake or exaggerate an injury as well. And I'm not in any way suggesting that ALL those who missed playing time were due to this reason, just that SOME may have adding to the large list I certainly could be wrong, but it seems like something more than bad luck or coincidence to have produced the carnage they had.
Nope. I'm not saying that, but thanks for asking for clarification before attributing that to me. From my POV, even with these injuries, they could've - should've won - at least 2 more games but due to Gase's coaching didn't.
So you do not believe we were undermanned via injury? Do you have any basis for this? Or is this just speculative because you think Adam Gase is a dickhead? While responsibly not attributing this to all players, which do you think this was the case for? I think we can agree that the injuries that hurt us the most were the following: LB Avery Williamson LB CJ Mosely LB Blake Cashman DT Quinnen Williams (in and out) CB Trumaine Johnson OT Kelvin Beachum (minus three games) OG Brian Winters OG Kelechi Osemele TE Chris Herndon TE Ryan Griffin WR Quincy Enunwa WR Josh Bellamy (depth reasons) WR Demaryus Thomas (in and out) QB Trevor Siemien QB Sam Darnold Which of these injuries do you believe were mail ins? Osemele was and he got caught by the medical staff and cut right away. Any others?
Not to seem against what you said but just a thought. Osmele was hurt, and they kept telling him to play through it. We will probably lose money in a grievance over this. What if there were other people who mentioned being hurt and the training staff told them to play through it and it got worse. I know Mosley for was one of these. Maybe there were more?
Gotta love fans who have nothing meaningful to say and just want to judge others opinions like twat waffles.
