List and report on any prospects you think could play Linebacker in the 3-4 scheme, especially Outside Linebacker. Lamar Woodley looked good this weekend as did Gaines Adams. I personally think Chris Ellis (VT) could move from 4-3 end to 3-4 OLB but he would need 1 more year of college I think. Keep an eye on him and see if he matures at all. List any other prospects or reviews.
gaines adams is a definite 1st round talent, but i think more as a defensive end...his speed and athleticism are insane
I would definately like to see him stand up and play in space but I think he is capable of making the switch and as such is def. someone we should keep an eye on. He definately fits the body type of the 3-4 OLBs coming into the league lately (Ware, Merriman). I was at the game this past Thursday and he abused Brandon Frye, but due to quick drop backs and run plays he was mostly taken out of the game. I think he did either force a fumble or get a sack though.
Right now the Jets are in position to draft Woodley. He will be a 14-20 pick. If he keeps getting 2 sacks a game though He might be a top 10 pick which at that point would be difficult to get. I also hope Cleveland doesn't decide to draft their "heir" to Willie McGuinest. If Lamar is off the board I would draft either Branch or Okam in the first round to take care of the D-line then draft Anthony Spencer from Purdue in the second round. He will be an OLB in a 3-4 scheme.
I doubt Cleveland drafts Woodley because they drafted Wimbley high last year and they aren't in a position (like the Cowboys) to load up on one position year after year. Can you go into detail about Anthony Spencer? I don't think I've heard his name being mentioned around here.
Spencer got eaten up by Joe Thomas when they played last week, kind of derailed his hype train, still a solid option though. I think as we go along, we'll be able to ID prospects that fit the 34 OLB mold later on in the draft who can be just as effective early on as some of these top notch guys. It still amazes me that Shaun Phillips lasted as long as he did a few years ago, guys who aren't quite a fit for most teams may give us a big advantage in uncovering some quality mid round prospects.
The problem is there are a ton of 3-4 teams now. The good thing is most have OLBs in place (Cleveland, Pittsburgh, San Fran, Dallas) We need to look out for the Pats because I'd say there is a good chance they use one of their first rounders on an OLB.
When we traded for Kassell I thought he would have been used alot more as with Chatham. Mangini likes Chatham ALOT and it wouldn't surprise me if we see alot more of him next season. Both of those in my eyes are interior LBs so thats a problem because of Vilma also being there. The question is do we go after an aggressive OLB (replaces Hobson) and a massive DT to free up Vilma in the middle , or simply replace Vilma? I think Vilma would struggle in the NEs D. For me he is just too small for 3-4 and should maybe move outside ,(WOLB) which I think he could excel at. Which would still leave us needing another big MLB which we already have??? So to summerise I think Tangini will move Vilma and go after a MLB, and at the moment that would be Paul Posluszny or Patrick Willis.
Anyone for Patrick Willis...Beast! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bM4sEmaFLQ Hows this for relentless pusuit.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVaa8NWqync&mode=related&search=
Lbs r not really important for the jets ATM. a good D-Line which can all 2gap will make ur lbs very good by itself
If, as suggested by some on this board, Vilma is moved, the Jets should look at David Harris of Michigan. He can play ILB in the 3-4 scheme. In fact If I were the Jets I would just draft the whole Michigan D. Lamarr Woodley, David Harris and Alan Branch.
I agree. Barton is so far having an excellent season. Vilma , well we all know the pros and cons there. Hobson had done well in pass coverage. As mentioned before Kassell and Chatham have more to their game than we have seen so far and I really would like to see more of Kassell in the 3-4 now, he did well for the Tiatns.
If Woodley is gone then with the Jets pick in the second rd we should look at Ameer Ismail from Western Michigan The OLB. Leads the nation in Sacks.
Outside of the obvious trio of Moses, Adams and Woodley, I like Jay Moore of Nebraska. I posted the following earlier: http://forums.theganggreen.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=13868 I also like Missouri DE Brian Smith as a potential 3-4 OLB prospect. Unfortunatly for him, he recently broke his right hip and is done for the season. On the bright side for him he won't need surgery. Prior to the injury Smith's stock was on the rise as he was 5th in the country in sacks. On the bright side for us this injury may have dropped him back under the radar as a sleeper prospect.
Height: 6'4" | Weight: 235 40-Yard Dash: 4.64 (unofficially) NFL Comparison: Demarcus Ware, Dallas Cowboys Official Site Profile: Brian Smith Positives: Smith is one of the most explosive pass rushers in the nation. He broke Missouri's career sack record during his junior year, a mark that was once held by current Cincinnati Bengals defensive end Justin Smith. Brian Smith's quick first step, long arms and tremendous lateral agility make him a difficult player to block for most offensive tackles. He has an impressive repertoire of pass rush moves and can beat his man with power or finesse. He is also adept at shedding blockers and attacking the line of scrimmage on running plays. Smith comes from a good bloodline (his father Chris played fullback for the Kansas City Chiefs), and he is an intelligent player who responds well to coaching. Negatives: Smith is a bit of a project because he is not big enough be an every-down defensive end at the next level and would be a better fit at outside linebacker. Unfortunately, he has stayed on the defensive line as Missouri has had more depth at linebacker than at end. Making the switch to linebacker would be a significant adjustment because Smith has rarely been asked to drop into coverage. He has a lanky frame and could add muscle without sacrificing quickness. Overall: Pass-rushing outside linebackers are in high demand these days because of the recent resurgence of the 3-4 defense. While Smith is far from being an every-down linebacker, he has athleticism that can't be taught and the mental capacity to learn a new position. -Justin Vernold (July 26, 2006) Maybe Brad Smith can put a bug in Tangini's ears about this guy.
Woodley would be a great pick for us.He was awesome against OSU.He had constant pressure against Troy Smith.We need a guy that puts pressure on the Qb like him.As much as I like this guy I would prefer to draft his teammate Alan Branch.
Lamar Woodley should be our pick in the 1st round we most likely wont be in position to get Ad or Lynch, but if we get Woodley i wouldnt mend us picking another 3-4 lb in the 3rd especially if it was quentin groves out of Auburn.
Yes, but when they moved Spencer around, he forced Wisconsin away from him. I noticed on several occasions he lined up on the right side, and it looked like they audibled away from him. I'm a big Spencer supporter, after seeing him and the Purdue defense vs. Illinois.
I think the Pats will go ILB before they go OLB. Colvin and Banta-Cain are both solid on the outside. It's the inside(Bruschi and Seau) that is aging and lacking. I also think the Pats will be looking at a CB as Samuel is a FA and it is the D's largest weakness.
