Man, it worries me no matter what or who we draft. I couldn't tolerate watching the 1st 3 games, with that shit Swiss cheese crap we watched last year start us off. If after 2nd game , that remotely happens I want to hear Saleh taking ownership of it to fix it. Not sold on Ulbrich, that defense never got better just erractic.No loyalty shit. This shit gone on too long. The defense WILL improve after draft. No excuses.
It will improve, but that is not the most important priority this offseason, so you may just have to grin and bear it. The #1 priority, the only thing that really matters this offseason is ensuring that Zach develops into a FQB. If he doesn't, it won't matter how good our D is, we won't win a darn thing.
Agree with Zach. Also, the defense playing poorly puts a lot of pressure on him to carry the team. Hes not ready for stuff like that. He starts to freelance, trying to make big plays. They fixed that mentality a bit 2nd half last year.
What put more pressure on Zach was RBs, TEs, and WRs who didn't know the offense, didn't know their responsibilities on given plays, and who dropped passes, missed blocks, etc. One of the main reasons they drafted Zach is his asbility to freelance and create. They are not trying to stifle that and get rid of it. If they are, they're fools. That was just a temporary adjustment until the talent level around Zach improves, players know the offense, and can execute their responsibilities. He was having to freelance too much because he couldn't rely on anyone in his offense.
in the past 25 years we have employed some incredibly good defenses, and won nothing. What we’ve never had is a prolific offense. I could care less how many points we give up, we always lose anyway. I want an offense that can actually excite me for once.
You keep beating the same drum. Giving Zach training wheels is more important than drafting the best player if the better player is on defense. The reality is that our young quarterback can succeed without an all star cast or fail with one. If this guy needs so much help why was it necessary to spend the number two overall pick on him? Wasn't drafting him supposed to solve our problems on offense? Our window for making a deep playoff run doesn't start until next year. This means that we have two years and two draft classes to plug our holes in preparation for that run. The current draft board screams defense at both 4 and 10. We could trade down for the right offer but we will regret reaching for a flashy receiver with either one of those picks.
Agree completley. Let me ask this forum a question. The jets have an opportunity to draft 4 high quality players. They could bust but you don't expect them to. That means 4 players get replaced . Which if our starting 22 should get replaced immediately ?
Looking at the AFC landscape with all the great QBs and great offenses, JD has to make a decision starting with THIS draft: 1) Surround ZW with weapons and hope he can win shootouts 2) Build a top Defense that keeps those offenses on the bench
good question. To be replaced: -Quinnens brother at LB -Whoever the other LB is besides Mosley also gets replaced -John Franklin Myers moves inside replacing Rankins, JFM's original spot (DE) then becomes the rookie -Ashtyn Davis at Safety
Completely agree. Not only have we been a bad team for as long as I can remember, but we've also been a boring and unwatchable one. Even putting that aside, it's very clear you need an elite offense to actually be a good team anyway. It's essentially impossible to be a good team with an elite defense and bad offense, but it's definitely possible to be a good team with an elite offense and bad defense.
The last time we were truly good was 10 years ago, and our offense was the limiting factor for why we couldn't take it all the way. We had a top 5 running game and top 5 defense those years and it still wasn't enough because we couldn't pass at all. Not to mention that the league has become even more pass-happy since then. The rules around hitting QBs and WRs have only gotten softer over time. Nobody gets blown up by safeties over the middle anymore. Take a look at the playoff teams any given year over the last 10 years - there's an enormous overlap between them and the top passing teams for that year. There is much less overlap between playoff teams and the top defensive teams.
I agree that we'll be able to tell if Wilson is good or not with or without adding a ton of help on offense. However, we are still nowhere near as talented on offense as we need to be. Our #2 WR would be a #3 WR on most teams. Our best WR is probably Moore, and we don't know for sure if he's going to be a consistent, healthy, 1,000 yards per year guy yet. We have decent TEs but not especially good ones, same with RBs. Just look at the teams that make deep playoff runs every year - they are almost always the teams with great QBs AND multiple very good weapons on offense. We need to get our weapons to that point. Even if Wilson doesn't turn out to be the guy we'll at least be plug and play for the next QB at that point.
It's not that simple because some positions contribute a lot more to wins and losses than others. We'd benefit more from adding an elite WR or CB than we would from adding an elite off ball LB or IDL. It's not just about upgrading the most glaring weaknesses, although to be honest our WRs are absolutely a glaring weakness anyway.
We need the offense to put up points. It's that simple. Defenses play better when they have a lead. True, the Jet defense, was the worst I've seen in the last 5 years. However, that's a low bar because all Jet defenses, including last year's, have had to contend with anemic offenses. Shoring up the defense with some picks is a good idea. The offense right now should be adequate, if Wilson takes the next step in his development.
