Jets' conservative approach on offense slows Sanchez's progress

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...7/sanchez/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_sports
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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  3. JetBlue

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    you don't learn to make throws by not throwing.
     
  4. BleednGreen247

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    Yup.

    Fire Schitty.
     
  5. MBGreen

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    Mayock is right....the Jets need to stop relying 100% on their defense...and take some chances on offense. Having a stellar defense is great....but using it as a crutch to play conservative offense is risky....and it bit us in the ass in week 1.
     
  6. TommyGreen

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    It's obvious that the Jets' gameplan for the Ravens was to play to win the field position battle. They knew the score would be low, but counted on at least getting one touchdown. Had the gameplan been more effective, we would have won 13-6 or something along those lines.
     
  7. MBGreen

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    You're probably right....but what i have a problem with....is that the Jets didn't tweak their offensive gameplan at any point during the game., We've seen this song and dance before....and it cost us then too.
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I'm really impressed by the whole article. Don Banks went out and found people who know the QB position and know talent and got them to say the obvious thing that most people seem to be missing: Sanchez is young and talented and is going to take awhile to develop. You can't rush the process and if you try to avoid it you can cause major setbacks.
     
  9. Hobbes3259

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    They should give Sanchez one offensive series, to call his own plays.

    If it leads to any kind of score, he repeats on the next series....2 series if he gets seven.

    That accomplishes two things....let's you see what he likes, and KNOWS he can do....

    Forces Schottenheimer to adapt...

    This 2 WR, 1 TE, 2B set is killing me.

    Spread someone out FCOL.

    For a team with secondary issues, you need to get the front 7 moving away from the QB.

    That Base formation doesn't do it.
     
  10. fozzi58

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    Great article. As stated by others, it points out the obvious. Unfortunately, with Rex's bravado, time is short on supply for this team. So I agree with the posters calling for more pass plays.

    That being said, what happens when he has a 3 or 4 int game. Do we all go oh no, SOS (same old Sanchez) or do we take a deep breathe and realize the INTs are the only way he's gonna get better? I for one am going with the latter.
     
  11. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    They better allow this kid to fucking grow.

    Playing like a Jet is not playing conservative, so let's cut the shit on offense and be just as ballsy on offense as they are on defense.

    If they do that, they'll go right back to the AFCCG without problem.

    You hold this kid back, and you'll never win 10 games. Do not ruin a great potential talent and leader.

    I'm still not happy with Rex's decision. I guess the honeymoon between my coach and I is over. I'm much more critical about this decision because its a full contradiction to how this team is operated. If Rex does not have the offense play like the D, the Jets will never be better than the Buccaneers under Tony Dungy.
     
  12. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    He's going to have those kinds of games, because every QB has those kinds of games.


    We have to hope he has one of those games a season, or every other season.

    What we wanna see is the kid play without chains around his neck.

    Go be a football player..... allow him to be a football player.
     
  13. al_toon_88

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    Why not attack defenses for a change, give it your best shot and if you get beat, you get beat? You can be aggressive without being stupid and careless.

    This giving-up-the-fight-before-it-even-happens mentality, which was evidenced by our total abandonment of a downfield passing game, is for losers.

    You'd think Herm Edwards was still here running things with all the pus-y play-calling.
     
  14. Big Blocker

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    Like not going for it on fourth and short inside the red zone?

    That was Ryan's call as I recall.
     
  15. NDmick

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    It was.

    Rex ordered the conservative game, and drilled "check it down" into the kids head, and it resulted in complete shit.

    But if the Jets are going to play that kind of shackled offensive game, they need to be perfect and it needs to be a tough, kick ass gameplan. It wasn't a tough, kick ass gameplan. It was cutesy.

    there are 3 people to blame for the loss. Rex, Schotty, and Sanchez. But Sanchez is the least culpable of the three.
     
  16. WhiteShoeWillis

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    He never said who's fault it was. You seem to be on some kind of pro-schottenheimer crusade that absolves Schotty of any fault lately.

    There were numerous things in Mondays game that showed a lack of balls. From the 4th and short decisions, to less than aggressive play calling to Sanchez prematurely checking down. Rex, Schotty and Sanchez all should be held accountable for being bitches on offense.
     
  17. All Gas No Shake

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    How many different people are going to say the same thing based on one game? One fucking game!

    What ever happened to a qb isn't fully acclimated to the league until his 20th start? At least let him establish a pattern of this type of play over two games before writing this nonsense.
     
  18. Br4d

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    The logical way to approach Sanchez development is to go heavy on the run and let him use the whole field when he drops back to pass on the 40-45% of the plays that you let him throw.

    He's definitely going to make mistakes and throw interceptions. That's what being a young QB means. If the answer to the problem is to not let him throw the ball upfield or drum it into his head that an interception is completely unacceptable then he's never going to develop as a QB.

    The Jets should have one thing in mind right now for the offense: create a few effective drives that turn into scores so the defense doesn't have to completely shut the opponent down to win the game. There's nothing wrong with being conservative in the Jet's half of the field and playing ball control and field position, but the dynamic should change once the Jets cross the 50. They should be opening it up a bit at that point and taking shots at the endzone now and then. Sanchez will make mistakes and turn the ball over at times but the consequences won't be as bad as if the Jets were playing loose on their side of the field.

    The other thing is that the Jets should be in hurry up mode more often, especially when they are in the conservative gameplan. There's no reason to do all that elaborate stuff at the line of scrimmage, risking a penalty, when the play they run is going to be pretty straightforward and low-risk as it is. Quick snaps give the offensive line a big advantage since they know when the play is going to start and the defense only gets a better idea of exactly when as the play clock runs down.
     
  19. ace_o_spades

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    The gameplan was terrible but we were still in position to win. The gameplan didn't include fumbles, dropped passes and penalties.
     
  20. dthomas53

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    This article articulated my thoughts perfectly. It also quotes three of the analysts whose opinions I respect the most - Mayock, Dilfer, and Esiason.

    Great read.
     

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