http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill/article/Browns, Jets Talking NFL Draft Trade summary: Browns want Jets #6 pick Jets rumored to want 12, 33 (2nd) and 108 (4th) Browns rumored to offer 12, 52 (2nd) and 145 (5th) Browns, Jets Talking NFL Draft Trade Updated April 19, 2017 By Charlie Campbell. Follow Charlie on Twitter @draftcampbell. There have been plenty of rumors about the Browns are targeting a quarterback with one of their early selections in the 2017 NFL Draft. There also has been a lot of talk that the New York Jets would like to trade down from the sixth-overall pick in the draft. WalterFootball.com has learned from sources that the Browns and Jets are talking about a trade that would have the Browns moving up from the 12th pick to the Jets' selection at No. 6 in order to take a quarterback. Cleveland is said to want North Carolina quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. In order to move down, the Jets want the 33rd-overall pick (second round) and the selection at No. 108 (fourth round). Those are the first choices on the second and third days of the draft. Leading off those days of the draft, New York would have some highly coveted picks that could allow them to trade down again with a team that is desperate to land a playerthey didn't think would make it to that spot. Cleveland is trying to trade its second-round pick, No. 52 overall, and the first selection in the fifth round, No. 145. With the sixth pick, the Browns are believed to want Trubisky. Cleveland is concerned that the Jets or the Bills (at pick 10) would take Trubisky before Cleveland is on the clock at 12. Even if Trubisky goes off the board earlier to the 49ers (2) or the Bears (3), the Browns may want to do the trade in order to land Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson before Buffalo is on the clock. The Browns likely would want to know their targets are available before doing the trade. Thus, this deal probably won't happen until the draft has already started and the Jets are on the clock with the players available. It also could easily fall apart if New York doesn't feel like it is getting good value, or the Browns not being willing to meet the Jets' price. Many trades like this never come to fruition because teams can't agree on the pick package or the desired player isn't available, but these two are in discussions right now about swapping picks. Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftr...s Talking NFL Draft Trade#S3uAOL1Ogo03V5QS.99
Just posted this 5 seconds after you. Pretty excited about it. This would be the absolute best case scenario. Having no 12 where we can get players like Barnett, Conley, Foster, King. Two early 2nd round picks to get guys like Ramczyk, Njoku or any of the CBs og Safties. I love that this could happen and what it could mean to get more picks.
If Jets and Browns are really discussing this(I have my doubts)The absolute worst thing that can happen for Jets is for this to get out in open. I think this is more likely coming from Browns camp to try to entice a team ahead of Jets to make this kind of deal.
most teams have preliminary talks with multiple teams,framing out trades in case certain players fall.
The Jets and Browns have probably talked at some point. Aside from that I wouldn't out too much faith in the current story. As Rextasy points out it is not to the Jets advantage for this to leak right now but definitely in the Browns interests. However there is a bright lining here, which is that any QB taken before the 6 promotes the value of the pick for the Jets. 2 QB's going early makes the 6 into a very valuable commodity because somebody is going to drop to the 6 that will make a few teams think about trading for the pick.
I think Trubisky going off the board before us is a good thing as well. It makes the #6 that much more valuable to the Cardinals/Saints/Steelers type of team that want to take a quarterback of the future. Watson, Mahomes and Kizer are the perfect type of quarterback to go to a team like the Saints or Cards that they can sit and mold. This is a very good quarterback class for teams that want their quarterback of the future, but not a very good draft for teams like us that need their franchise guy now. It behooves us to trade down at this point. We're in no mans land in taking a first round quarterback which sucks with the boneheaded decision of taking Hackenberg last year. It's a completely different ball game and we could've confidently took Trubisky or Watson if we didn't do that last year. Now Maccagnan risks his job if he takes one, which is not a thought you want in your general managers mind.
I think this is just speculation by someone wishing to generate "clicks". I doubt the Jets or the Browns would reveal what their plans are before Draft night, especially the Jets. As Br4d points out, as the draft unfolds, if someone takes a QB ahead of the 6 pick, it makes the Jets hand much stronger, so why would they "sell cheap" now? But if they did entertain such an offer from the Browns, I would want better than a low 2nd rounder in addition to their 12. I would drop the additional late round or 2018 pick, but would hold firm for their 12 and 33.
I've been wondering if the 33, 65 and 2018 1st would be good enough from the Jets perspective? The problem is that the pick next year might be of the 8-8 variety if you let the Browns pick 1, 6 and 12 in this pool of talent. Otherwise it's another top 10 pick in the year the QB's are likely to be there. It is the Browns after all and even if they improve they still have 6 games against the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens. For a normal team a 2018 1st is only worth 500 points but with the Browns it is more like 800. At that point 33 is 580 + 2018 1st is 800 + 65 is 265 = 1645 vs 6 at 1600.
I'll be surprised if that trade happens, but would love it if it did. Having the first pick on the 2nd & 3rd days of the draft would be awesome. If they are truly in discussions, I hope the Jets don't miss out by getting too greedy. They already have pick 107. Anyone they'd want at #108 they could take at #107, but it would be awesome to have both, as they could take a player they really wanted at #107 and if another team blows them away with a trade offer, they could gain another pick or two this year, or possibly a conditional pick next season. Using Brandt's rankings: At #12 they could take Barnette, Harris, O.J. Howard, Ramczyk (doubtful since they signed Beachum), or maybe even Mahomes. At #33 they could take FS Marcus Williams of WR JuJu Smith-Schuster At #39 they could take Jordan Willis, OLB, Marlon Humphrey, CB or Marcus Maye, S or trade down and take Chris Godwin, WR, Tyus Bowser, OLB, Pat Elflein, C, or Ethan Pocic, C At #70 they could take Raekwon McMillan, ILB, Jordan Leggett, TE, Alvin Kamara, RB, or Sidney Jones, CB or trade down and take Brian Hill, RB, Julien Davenport, OT, Roderick Johnson, OT, Davis Webb, QB, or Nathan Peterman, QB At # 107 they could take Taylor Moton, OG, Jake Butt, TE, Adam Shaheen, TE or trade down and take Antonio Garcia, OT At #108 See above If they got #145 instead, they could have a choice of Jalen Myrick, CB, or Ahkello Witherspoon, CB Think their defense would look different with OLB Barnette, Williams or Maye at FS, and Raekwon McMillan at ILB? Then again, it wouldn't be too shabby adding Adams or Hooker; Willis, Bowser, or Humphrey; and McMillan or Jones. The offense could also be greatly enhanced with Howard TE, Schuster-Smith or Godwin WR, Kamara or Brian Hill RB, Elflein or Pocic C, and either Moton OG or Garcia, Davenport, Johnson OT. The possibilities are almost endless and very exciting to think about.
This is almost certainly just a preliminary talk in case the (second) guy Cleveland wants falls to 6. If the trade discussed (or some variant - Cleveland has a lot of picks) happens it won't happen till the Jets are on the clock at 6.
The fact that this is even out here, makes me think it has no chance of happening. I wouldn't be mad if they did make the trade though. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Leaking this out could also be to the Jets advantage since the Browns aren't offering up the value the Jets want in return. It puts other teams on notice that may also want to trade up for Mitchell or another QB. Maybe another team will offer up a package to the Jets and start a bidding war.
The Saints are about at the point of drafting Brees replacement for 2 years down the road. They trade up a lot and they might be enticed to come up to 6 for Trubisky or Watson depending on who they value. They'd probably stay at 11 for Mahomes or Kizer or Webb if those were the preferred candidates.
Would be a great score if we got #12 + #33 + 4th Take OJ at 12 and Adoree Jackson at 33 all day. Also if we like a QB we could trade back into the 1st with our 2nd to get the 5th year option (Kizer).
In a week from now, after all the click baiting trade rumors, there will be no movement in the first 10 picks of the 2017 NFL DRAFT.
Why would the Jets trade their pick to another team to move up and draft the top QB on the board, when the Jets themselves do not have a QB?
if the jets are not sold on any of the QB prospects then I would think it would be smart to try and sort out some of the other glaring holes in the squad and then look to next year to land a QB given it is currently being viewed as a much stronger crop
The QB's in this year's class are a trap for a team that has trouble developing QB's. They're a bunch of flawed prospects. Getting 2 or 3 picks instead of taking one of them would be ideal. Then we play Hack and Petty next year and draft a real QB in 2018.
