Jet hierarchy structure

Rex and Bowles both had to have their fingerprints all over the selection. Rex was here for six years and got three first round defensive backs, and three first round defensive lineman, along with big contracts to Cromartie and Revis (stint #1).

Bowles got an entire new secondary in free agency in his first year here, then took a hybrid linebacker (compared to Deone Buccanon in AZ) in Darron Lee, and safeties in back to back rounds followed by another top 5 paid corner. His second in three years.

I'd say they heavily influences the decisions. It's no secret that there aren't a lot of receivers and offensive tackles mixed in to that group above.

 

Mangini, too. I think it started with Tannenbaum's tenure as GM.

 

I wonder how it works in successful organizations and what the input level is for head coaches. I wonder if it varies or if there's a defining structure. I would imagine Douglas knows, coming from the Ravens.

We'll probably never know, but I would imagine that head coaches are a lot more involved at the top of the draft and leave a lot more discretion to the GM at the bottom.

 

For what it’s worth, we heard a lot of noise during the Rex era about him getting one personal pick per draft. He himself — maybe during Hard Knocks? — discussed turning one such pick into the disappointing John Conner after watching (not enough) game tape.

Which is not to say he didn’t have input over other picks.

 

Taj Boyd is another one. His son played with him at Clemson. What a stupid fucking concept.

I would hope not. But from an organizational standpoint there are definitely trends that we have seen. The want for an interior lineman has been alive since we passed on Sapp. From Robertson through this disastrous decade.

That has been the case with every single regime. So they have to have influence on that.

The owner should not be involved in personnel decisions. And they obviously are. From the defensive tackle disasters to Favre to Tebow to the mis-handling of Revis post 2010.

There also shouldn't be that much disagreeing among the HC and GM because they should share the same vision. That's not to say that they'll always agree, but I would imagine the better run franchises see the same thing in the same players for the most part.

 

When Rex was head coach and Sanchez was starting QB, Sanchez got a pick in one of the drafts. He chose his WR buddy in the 7th round. It was a wasted pick.

 

i think the correct answer is we dont know. i dont ever recall hearing anything out of the jets about how the selections are made, who has input and who does not. i assume they have probably tried a number of different ways in the past 15 years as they have done an absolutely horrible job overall since woody took over the team.

i think the whole thought process of the hc and gm both reporting to the owner as i guess equals is silly and hasnt worked at all for the jets.

bring in a good gm who knows the job, can handle the scouts and head coach and let him handle it. and keep anyone named johnson as far away from the decision making as possible. they should actually hire a football president to give even one more layer of buffer between the idiots and the gm, hc, players.

 

Hopefully they now have the right GM.

 

Bowles was a defensive coach and that is what they drafted under him with no success. With pressure probably from the Johnsons and from the fan they fially took an offensive player in Darnold. If they hadn't the fans would have burned down the Jets. I think the Johnsons stay out of it. Thankfully Gase stepped up and got Maccagnan fired (just wish he wouldn't have let him draft first). I still don't know what triggered it.

 

Mangini drafted pretty well for the Jets. We got Mangold and Ferguson for over a decade, plus he drafted Revis. Tannenbaum was an accountant and knew nothing. Wouldn't mind Mangini coming back in a personnel department gig. Certainly wouldn't hurt as he possibly drafted 3 potential HOFamers for the Jets.

 

Think this was confirmed in Collision Low Crossers. Rex also made a comment about the Pryor selection along the lines of give me the guy who hits hard - the team had 2 safeties to chose from, iirc the other was Clinton-Dix, but there's been a lot of failed draft picks under the bridge since then so my memory might be faulty.

I think it is safe to say that the HC has had a significant impact on the picks and this might not be an entirely bad thing. The question really is have the owners undermined the GM by insisting the HC gets to pick players he likes because they fit his vision over ones that the GM and scouting staff like. And that we may never know. I suspect in the past this is the case, but that last year was solely Mac.

 

It should be..

Gase- I need these type of players on offense
Williams- I need these type of players on D
JD- OK I’ll find them.

In the end though, draft picks fall on the GM who has final say whether he is persuaded by the HC or not.

 

Terry Bradway sat in some corner office jerking off after he was demoted, but he did yell a lot afterwards that he wanted and made a huge case for Russell Wilson but no-one would listen to him. Does anyone even know what that demotion accomplished other than wasting my time?

 

my recollection was hearing that bradway was a very good scout, who did a great job scouting but was a horrible gm. i think that they wanted to keep him as a scout which is why he was demoted. i dont think any of us really know what he was or he wasnt. if he was passing along good info or not. who was the gm that replaced him when he got demoted? was it tannenbaum? i think it was, so they probably realized we have a numbers guy at gm, we need to make sure he has people that understand the scouting and can help him and they probably still felt bradway was good in that department.

 

IOW: Jets ownership was clueless about how to construct a winning franchise.

...and still is.