James Hasty Mock

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  1. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Here is my latest mock.

    Trade #1
    Saints get Jets first (#6 overall)

    Jets get Saints first, (# 13), Seahawks first (#31), and Saints fourth # 109)

    Trade #2
    Broncos get Jets second (#37) and fourth (#101)

    Jets get Broncos first (#28)

    Trade # 3
    Panthers get Jets third (#70) and Saints fourth (#109)

    Jets get Panthers third (#89), fourth (#121), fifth (#153) and 2016 Third

    Jets picks
    Saint's first (13) Todd Gurley RB Georgia
    Bronco's first (28) Nelson Agholor WR USC
    Seahawks first (31). Marcus Peters CB Washington
    Panthers third (89) David Johnson RB NIU
    Panthers fourth (121) David Tull OLB
    Panthers fifth (153) Frank Clark OLB Michigan
    Jets seventh (198) Connor Halliday QB
    Bears seventh (199) Michael Orakpo OLB Texas

    I think this one is realistic and that we could do a lot worse.

    I would have liked to get at least one offensive lineman but I am not sure the value is there in this draft.
     
  2. BomberJet

    BomberJet Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about this but you certainly do make a cause for busy draft room activity, lol. Just don't see them taking a RB in the first since they
    have not been the GM's/Coaches favorite 1st round pick over the past several years.

    Waiting till the 4th for an OLB - a position they sorely need help in - can't see that either.
     
  3. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    Like the trades, and think Gurley in the first is a very real possibility, but I seriously doubt the Jets go the entire draft without getting a QB.
     
  4. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    Gurley, Ivory, Powell, Ridley, and Johnson. What are we going to do with 5 backs? Not sure the 3rd trade is very realistic.
     
  5. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    I got one in round 7.
     
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    I just love the fact that you got us 3 first round picks without giving up any future picks or current players.
     
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  7. Rockinz

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    A lot of trades for a rookie GM.

    Mac the new John Wayne busting in and running shit lol
     
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  8. JetFanInPA

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    Trade downs are usually ideal, but this one has just too many for me to buy and NO giving up 2 firsts and a high 2nd to move up just 7 spots. And for who? I don't see how this is realistic.

    The draft itself would be nice, but with all of those picks, how can you not get a single offensive lineman? And that'd make for a really crowded backfield albeit a stacked one, but it seems like Gurley might be gone by then and I would guess David Johnson will be too. And I don't want someone like Frank Clark on the team, especially at a 5th round pick (isn't he a 295 pound DL or am I missing something?)

    But in such a wild scenario, it's quite a keep overall, obviously.

    Side note, a recent Rotoworld blurb mentioned the Jets have an "affinity" for OT Andrus Peat, so he could be a realistic target in a trade down
     
  9. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    The Saints are giving up two firsts and a fourth, not a high second.

    For a while I was thinking of a lineman late in the first round or Clemmings in round two if he drops far enough but Agholor and Peters are much more valuable than any lineman that will be available at pick #28.
     
  10. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    That was a typo on my part. But still, that's a ton to give up for NO. Their 13 and 44 equal 6 perfectly by the trade value chart, I believe. That's much more realistic. Who do you think the Saints would covet?
     
  11. James Hasty

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    Amari Cooper, Kevin White, Leonard Williams, or they may have a preference for one of the pass rushers (Fowler, Beasley, etc.).

    The trade value chart is a rule of thumb since teams sometimes go apeshit for a player or a team just has to trade down.

    If the #1 player on your board is available at #6 do you really care about throwing in an extra fourth rounder?
     
  12. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Worst mock I've seen yet.

    Great job.

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  13. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    Maybe if we're talking 13, 44 and the 4th. Maybe. But not for two first round picks. Obviously that would be amazing, but this looks more like one of those draft simulator mocks
     
  14. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    All those trades realistic? Me thinks you dwell in a different reality than I do.
     
  15. JStokes

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    Let me expound on my snarky reply.

    There is no way I'm taking Gurley in the first round when I could get Duke Johnson or Ameer Abdulah or
    Tevin Coleman or TJ Yeldon in the second or third round.

    There is no way I'm taking Nelson Agohlor in the first when I could get Phillip Dorsett or Jalen Strong or DGB or Rashad Greene or Sammie Coates in the second or third round.

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  16. ItalianStallion

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    I like the 1st trade with NO seeing they could move up to snag White or L. Williams if he drops, but don't like the 2nd and 3rd trades. Also, I dont see why we could draft Gurley at 13 AND David Johnson considering we have 3 backs under contract already. I'd swap out Gurley for best OLB or OL. Then I'd personally select DGB or Strong over Agholor.

    So with NO trade, I'd do Dupree/Peat at 13.
    at #31, best avail OL(Ogbuehi/Humphries)/OLB (Harold/Ray/Gregory)/WR(Strong/DGB)
    at #37, best avail OL/OLB/WR/RB(Ajayi/Coleman) whichever we haven't gotten/best value
    at #70, best avail RB(Duke Johnson/Abdullah)
     
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  17. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    First of all we have exactly zero running backs under contract after this season.

    All three of them will be unrestricted free agents.

    Also I took three pass rushing linebackers, why in the hell would we need to reach for one with the thirteenth overall pick when the guys I took have just as much upside?

    DGB is a headcase who has a 50-50 chance to not be in the NFL after a year or two. He and Strong might be gone by pick # 37 anyway.
     
  18. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Your first point is absolutely meaningless. The Jets could re-sign none, one, two or all three of them. There are almost always good RBs available in FA. RB is the easiest position for a rookie to come in, start and play at a high level. A RB with speed and great hands could make our offense more dangerous and flexible, but it is not an absolute necessity or great need.

    Your three OLB prospects combined don't add up to Dupre and probably not Harold, either. Quantity is not necessarily better than quality.

    DGB is a headcase and both Strong and he could be gone at #37, but if so, that probably means that Dorsett is there or maybe Perriman, or there's Harold if they took Peat in the first.
     
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  19. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Aside from Leonard Williams, none of the edge rushers in this draft is a sure thing.

    David Tull may just be a small school workout warrior but he dominated at the combine.

    Frank Clark would go much higher if not for his off the field issues.

    Michael Orakpo (brother of Brian Orakpo) entered the season with a lot of hype only to get injured before it started.

    All three players have as much upside as Dupre who may fit the looks like Tarzan plays like Jane label if you watch his tape instead of his combine performance.

    You are throwing out a lot of WR names but Nelson Agholor checks all of the boxes for us at WR. He has the speed to catch the deep ball and he is a great route runner. There is a reason he has quietly risen to the first round of the draft.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    The "sure thing" again? Please. There is no such thing. If a team drafted only sure things, most years they'd wind up taking no players or maybe only 1 or 2.

    Agholor is a nice WR and in about any other draft, he would be someone to get excited about, and I wouldn't hate it if we got him, but there are faster and better WRs imo.

    I disagree with the upside of those 3 OLBs vs Dupre.
     

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