https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/667t2c/jamal_adams_had_0_penalties_this_year_and_has/ http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...randts-topranked-prospects-for-2017-nfl-draft If this guy is available OTC, I don't see how you CAN'T take him.
I like him, I just can't see him getting to 6, and I think it would be a crime to trade up. That said if he makes it and there is no one offering a reasonable trade down deal, do it. Same can be said for Malik Hooker. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
He's one of the guys who would make a defensive pick palatable. That said, I'm still hoping the Jets can trade down a couple of times and get somebody good in the 20's. It's a deep draft for defensive secondary.
I'm totally with you on Adams. If Gil Brandt's rankings are anywhere near accurate, then if the Jets stay put at #6, they could take Hooker, Trubisky or Watson. If they traded down a few spots, depending where, they could take O.J. Howard, Gareon Conley, Reuben Foster, Cam Robinson, Derek Barnett, Charles Harris, Patrick Mahomes or even Ryan Ramczyk. I would rank them in order of preference as Barnett, Harris, Mahomes, Howard, Ramczyk, Foster, Robinson. Interesting that he has Budda Baker as his 55th ranked player and T.J. Watt as his 60th ranked player, Obi Melifonwu at #69 and Desmond King at #70. That's very different than most.
If Adams or Hooker are available, there's no trading down. You run as fast as you can to the podium and take them Hopefully someone trades up for a QB or Jonanthan Allen gets selected instead.
Baker and Obi are rated pretty low on that list, Baker is a surprise, he seems to be getting less love as the draft process continues. There's like 2 or 3 other safeties ranked higher outside of Adams and Hooker. I still think Melifonwu is one of the more overrated prospects and gets love cause of his size. TJ Watt looks to be too low also and Tim Williams is higher on the list. Very interesting rankings. In terms of Foster, I think I am removing him from the first round draft board. Apparently his rotator cuff isn't fully healed and actually I've been seeing articles where he isn't as good as we initially thought. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...rtedly-concern-for-nfl-teams-after-interviews He's certainly not the player I thought he was.
I was going to say that if Allen, Fournette, and Lattimore go in the first five picks there is a good chance Adams could be there.
QB too. I have a feeling someone is going to trade down so someone can take a QB. Titans will take Lattimore I think with the sudden release of Jason McCourty
WOW. The maturity/anger thing is important. I had doubts about him in that regard. I didn't know that he had learning difficulties or may not be smart enough to learn an NFL playbook. I definitely would not take him in the top 20 now.
Here is my hope and wish that Jonathan Allen, Lattimore and one QB get picked before six. We could very well be staring at Adam or for sure Hooker. I would pull the trigger in a nano second, unless there is a trade down with some really heavy ammunition. What's not to love. The converse, where Allen, Lattimore and Trubisky are there at six makes me very nervous.
I just have this funny feeling that Allen is going to drop to 6 and then past 6 and wind up in the teens with somebody like the Ravens. He's such a tweener and the shoulders are kind of scary alongside that. I really hope the Jets don't take him unless they project him as a 4-3 RDE and are moving to that front. We don't need another big guy pass rusher to go with the 3 we already have.
It would be a bad pit in the stomach type of pick. Tweener at a deep group of talented players is not what the Jets need right now.
You won't be alone. I'll be hustling to beat you out the door. Not only would I not root for the Jets, I would root against them as long as Mac is the GM and Woody owns the team.
Adams would be a hard pick. I love the player, and I agree we need to upgrade from Pryor, but I'm not sure if it's a better 'comparative upgrade' than say, grabbing OJ Howard at our currently non-existent TE depth chart. And I'm admittedly a little scared of taking a TE in the top 10.
From the perspective of comparative upgrade, Howard would definitely be the better pick. Fortunately, that's not the only thing to consider. IMO one also needs to consider other aspects like if the player loves the game and has a burning desire to be one of the best, leadership, if he's a type who can be a real difference maker in terms of being able to "take over a game" or change the momentum with a big play, the importance of the position, and who is the better player at his position. Finally, one has to consider need. I like Howard a lot, but I have seen a scout or two question whether Howard loves the game and has that burning desire to be great. Howard has risen to the occasion in big games and been very productive, but I'm not sure he could be dominant in a way that Gronk is. The TE position is becoming increasingly important in the NFL and probably will be very important in Morton's offense, but is it more important than the SS position? The gap may be closing, but imo SS is the more important position. I also think that Adams is a much better SS than Howard is a TE. I think Adams is a potential HOFer, and perennial All Pro-type. Howard has the natural ability to be that type of player, but will he be? Adams OTOH definitely loves the game. He has a desire to be great and he is a leader and makes the others around him better. He could change the whole attitude of the Jets' defense. He could also change the momentum in a game with a huge hit, interception forced fumble or stopping an opposing RB from gaining a first down at a critical juncture. Another thing to consider, at least in terms of this draft and this season (but we need to think beyond just this season and also think long term) is what is the drop off between Howard and the next TE and Adams and the next SS. Ndoku isn't that far behind Howard in terms of pure talent and may have a higher ceiling, but is less NFL ready. If Peppers is indeed a SS, then he may not be that far behind Adams. He's very athletic, maybe even more than Adams, but doesn't have the experience that Adams does. He's also supposedly a leader, but I don't think he's in Adams' class. He also isn't that good in coverage. He doesn't get his head around. In terms of need, there's no question that TE is a bigger need than SS. Pryor had a very good season in 2015 and could bounce back this season. The Jets don't have a TE on their roster who's ever played a full season or had a good season. The Jets also have decent depth at SS, but none at TE. So, I guess it boils down to do the Jets take a potentially lesser player in this draft because the need is greater, or do they go with the player that could have a much greater impact on the team's play? It's probably a moot question because Adams probably will be gone before pick #6, but it also could be moot because the Jets trade the pick to Cleveland or another team, or opt to go with Fournette, Hooker or a QB at #6.
Hopefully Adams is on the board when the Jets are on the clock. He's a complete safety with scheme versatility. I think that if he makes it by Chicago, he will be on the clock when the Jets pick.
