With the 9th pick, lots of people on here have said that they want to trade down to a lower pick and maybe grab Warmack or someone not projected to be a top 10 pick. Ideally, that sounds great to me. However, this draft is an uncertain one and more than likely a weak one, filled with top talent in certain positions (OLs, DEs) but devoid of others (Qbs, Rbs, Wrs, Tes, etc.). Because of this, I don't think we will find a willing trading partner if we want to trade down. Most trade down scenarios occur as follows: team/pick 15 wants to pick a player that they think team 10 wants, so they trade up with team 9 in order to grab the player first. Unfortunately, it seems to me that this draft is a little more ambiguous than most so I'm not sure if anyone will be willing to trade up to the 9th pick. We'll know a lot more come April, but right now it seems unlikely to me. Thoughts?
I think many guys will trade up for one of the OLB, DT's, or Tackles people will want a top 10 pick I am looking at that Cowboys trade as what I want like a late teens pick plus a second would be amazing value in my opinion
Given that this team needs to rebuild, I'd love to see the Jets trade down unless Jarvis Jones or Te'o fall to 9th. After (I hope) the Jets Franchise Landry and spend frugally to re-sign or sign a RT, FS, ILB, WR, FB, and a Drew Stanton-cheap QB, Trade: 1st Round, Third Round, and a future pick to St. Louis for their two first round picks (#16 & #25). Draft Chance Warmack to start from day one and an OLB that falls to finally fix the pass rush. Take Barrett Jones in the second to re-build the O-Line and provide flexibility as Mangold's backup. I'm a major believer in building a team from the trenches-out, so, given that Jones is mocking in the early second-round, I wouldn't mind seeing the Jets offer their second and a fifth+seventh(or future) to get him. Draft a RB in the fourth (Lattimore?) and BPA fifth through seventh focusing on WR, LB, S, OT, and maybe even consider a K. Note: I think the Redskins will beat the Seahawks, putting their first round pick that goes to STL around #25.
I think it's possible because teams will fall in love with one guy or another, even if it's not a skill position. The problem is that, I think there will be more than a few teams that might be looking to do the same thing, so the price won't be a steep as we expect to be honest. If someone like Jones or Teo drops, THEN I see interest in that pick. But, if they drop, is it worth it to pass them up?
No, you take them imo. However, I am a big fan of the trade down and draft Warmack plan, but he may rise to top 10 area by draft day.
It's possible, but in the last decade no guard has gone higher than #15, in 2001 and 1998? A guard went in the top 10, but it's very very unusual for a guard to go top 10, in fact in every draft except those two the highest a guard has gone has been #15. Rightly or wrongly since the league started to become a pass heavy league and running has been less and less important to team guards have become more and more devalued.
If a team falls in love with Lewan or Matthews a trade down is possible. Then again if they are there I want the jets to grab one.
If no or only one QB has been taken, I could see someone think of moving up. Obviously, that would create a dilemma for us as well but I don't see a franchise QB in the draft. Not saying some can't be good just not a clear obvious talent.
Don't let Darrow bother you. He is all sarcasm and whining with no substance. It's the reason he's one of the very few on my ignore list around here.
You can almost always trade down from the bottom of the top 10. From about 7 onwards there is a lot of activity historically because nobody has to break the bank to trade up the way they do in the first 4 or 5 picks.
This is true and it is even easier now days with the salary slotting system keeping rookie contracts down. The bigger issues with this draft is the lack of sexy skill position players that would bring in a big haul.
Not only that, but there are multiple good OLBs early on as well as multiple good OL players, so teams looking for these positions may be willing to wait and get whoever falls to them rather than waste picks and choosing their favorite OLB, etc. That said, what Br4dw4y5ux says makes sense. It just depends on who goes in the first 8 picks.
That is called demand. The more people looking to trade up the higher the price will be, not the other way around. It will be who falls to 9, and who is in love with them.
FWIW, last year Seattle traded the #12 pick last year to Philadelphia for their first (15th), fourth (114th), and sixth round (172nd) selections. Cincinnati traded #21 to New England for their first (27th) and third round (93rd) selections. In 2011, Washington traded #10 to Jacksonville for #16 and a 2nd (49) If Milliner drops to #9, Tampa (13) or New Orleans (15) might be willing to move up. Personally I would love to see us trade down, obviously we have a lot of needs. If we traded with say, New Orleans, we would get AT LEAST an extra 3rd and would probably be able to grab Warmack at #15. Under this scenario, our first 3 rounds could look something like this: 1)Warmack 2)Gio Bernard 3)Chase Thomas 3)QB
Okay here's how things can work out if a guy like Damontre Moore, Luke Joeckel, Dee Milliner or Bjoern Werner are there someone would move up for them Trades up last year include Dallas moving up for Claiborne and Jacksonville for Blackmon Teams behind us I can see moving up are Bengals- as they have a 1st and 2 2nd's so I could see them looking to add to their LB corps maybe moving up for Te'O. We could get a 1,2,5 out of them for them to get Te'O. They have the #5 pick in the 2nd round so we'd pick in the 20's in the 1st round and 2 top 10 picks in the 2nd round. Buccaneers- they could move up for Milliner right ahead of Tennessee as both teams need CB help. If Dee Milliner gets pass Detroit then he'd be there for Tennessee so I could see Tampa Bay trying to slide in before them and grab him. We'd be able to get 1,2 5 as well from them. those are just 2 I see and if the Bengals lose in the Wild Card round then I'd love to trade back with them. Picking between 21-25 would give us a shot at guys like Sam Montgomerty, Ezekial Ansah, Jonathan Cooper, Barrett Jones, Dion Jordan and Barkevious Mingo while the 2 top 10 picks in the 2nd could give us a combination of Larry Warford, Justin Hunter, Cordarrelle Patterson, Robert Woods, Eddie Lacy, Mike Gillislee or BPA we have options it just depends on how the board plays out
It's a good way to look at it. I could see a team like Pittsburgh or the bears moving up for Matthews or Lewan. They need oline help badly.
