Is Sanchez our franchise QB or not..

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  1. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    We're 3 years in now and we still don't know if Sanchez is or isn't the QB to lead this team to the SB. I would imagine the biggest question this season is the most obvious one. Is Sanchez "The Man" or do we need to think about going in a different direction and I don't mean Tebow.

    I'm thinking 2012/13 will be a very telling year in the New York career of Mark Sanchez. As we all know from other sports, not everybody can thrive under the pressure of playing in the TriState. I'm sure a lot of you can name players that left here and went on to become stars other places in professional sports. So far, so good for Mark and his ability to handle adversity on the field.

    There's many a documented case of guys not succeeding with their first team but thriving with their second. Drew Brees comes to mind as the most obvious example.

    Mark is saying all the right things this year and I hope we have our Qb. If not, we'd better recognize this and think about the future. This is a Qb driven, pass first league and perhaps trying to be a trendsetter with the G&P isn't the quickest way to the Lombardi. Its only been what.. 43 years now? I guess the one characteristic of a SOJF is patience if nothing else.

    I'm saying 2012/13 is a huge year for Mark Sanchez as he really doesn't have forever to blossom into a franchise, dare I say Elite Qb. Tebow is only a temporary threat as he really is more of a FB/WC option than a franchise Qb. (Sorry Tebots).

    As the name of this team implies, the "Jets" need to take to the air in this era of the NFL to really challenge for the Lombardi. Without a 2000 Ravens, once in a generation defense, the G&P and Potential will only take you so far. The idea still is to win the Super Bowl not just show up on Sundays.

    Is Mark Sanchez the man to get this done?
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Is Mike Tannenbaum the GM to get the Jets to a Super Bowl and win it?

    I don't see a team capable of going to the Super Bowl this year when I look at the Jets roster and I don't see a team likely to jell into that state either.
     
  3. JUNJOBX2199

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    If Sanchez is not Knocked around all night and actually has time throw the ball , but still stinks up the joint then no. Neither is Teabow !
     
  4. Br4d

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    No QB could take this Jets team and turn it into a big winner. The horses aren't there to win that race. I don't really think the Jets are going to go 4-12 this year but I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened.
     
  5. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    I think Sanchez is our guy and I do think we have the talent to be a really good team, but the locker room trouble was a huge setback. The inability to pass protect (therefore, no downfield passing + Burress's slow ass) was a huge setback and so was the pass rush. Even with those problems, this team was 8-8 last season. This team, IMO, should improve this year.
     
  6. JetBlue

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    He hasn't shown it yet in his career.
     
  7. TNJet

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    Right now, Sanchez is not our franchise QB. I have more faith in Tebow or McElroy.
     
  8. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Two times the Jets knocked on the door of the Super Bowl with Mark Sanchez. Two times they failed but not exclusively through Sanchez's fault (he was low on the list if anything).

    This guy is a winner. The Jets are a winning team with him at QB. If one 8-8 season is all it takes to determine someone isn't the guy to get it done then the bar is unrealistic. He's still a young player and he's still going to get a lot better. He's not the first guy to have a lot of turnovers early in his career and have success.
     
  9. b.reyes16

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    I took that as seriously as the smiling orange.
     
  10. Brunell's Debt

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    Sanchez's problem has nothing to do with the pressure of playing in New York (I think that his playoff performances prove that pretty definitively.)

    His problem is that he might just not be that good. He played so few games in college that we didn't really know what were getting aside from raw potential, and 3 years later he hasn't changed all that much as a player.

    He's still got plenty of time to make the jump, but I agree -- the clock is starting to tick on him.
     
  11. joe

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    I generally very much like reading your take on "things" whether agreed upon (usually) or not .... this one in particular.
     
  12. Jon_Snow

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    I agree Jets are in the neighborhood of 8-8. Sanchez is neither an elite QB or a bum. He is decent, having both good and bad moments but no where near being able to carry a team.

    Compare him to his peers in his draft: Stafford is clearly going to be an elite QB even though he missed an entire season due to injury, Freeman who was picked after Sanchez is a similar class as Sanchez with lower stats.

    The only reason the Jets would dump him would be if he completely sucked and they had a better alternative with more promise. Since neither is true we will have him for the foreseeable future. Elite QB are seldom found and even when a team has one it doesn't guarantee a super bowl. Look at Marino or a Jim Kelley.
     
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    In both of those situations Sanchez had long spells og doing ZILCH to win the game. I think he will turn out to be a very good QB but not a franchise QB.
     
  14. alleycat9

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    this is my fear. in conjunction with the fact that sanchez i do not think is the man to get us there.

    the fact we have the potential to have issues at wr and ol could mask the fact that sanchez is not the guy. setting the franchise back again.
     
  15. Jetfanmack

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    This will be a telling year in his development. I do look at Tannenbaum as not having put him in the best situation to succeed this year. Not for the Tebow move, which could work in a number of ways, but because of not addressing RT or #2 TE. Every unit on offense is a question mark as of now. They all could work, but they all could fail.

    Sanchez still needs to show more. This year, I think he should be given the whole year to develop. I don't know if he will, and if the team is 2-5 and Tebow has given the offense a spark when he's in there, I could see us desperately plugging in Tebow hoping to ride our defense to the playoffs.

    The bottom line is, as long as Sanchez and the Jets win games, Sanchez will be given a chance and will be off the hot seat.
     
  16. xxedge72x

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    So in your opinion only a QB who does "something" each and every week is capable of being the franchise QB? Please explain how Eli Manning has 2 Super Bowl wins and is going to be a future hall of famer?
     
  17. Mac Redstrum

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    Lets give the kid a chance , its a new year with a new oc and players. I think we have bigger worries like the o-line. The kid will be fine with a decent o-line. Last thing we need to do is panic. Give the kid a chance to prove himself with a decent o-line and receivers
     
  18. b.reyes16

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    What the hell is the difference as long as he is still on the team?!
     
  19. JetsUK

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    A very good is a franchise QB IMO, there are maybe 3 or 4 "elite" QBs - I certainly don't see him ever being that but even being "good" would be a major improvement and I would be happy enough with that (for now at least)
     
  20. wildaces

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    We do not need a premier offense with the defense that we have. I can appreciate you opinion, and I respectively disagree whole heartedly. If, and that is a big if, our offense can shorten the game, and put up 17-20 points a game, our team can make a run to the playoffs.

    As far as the question at hand, which was completely disregarded, this year is a telling tale. Sanchez received a window to slip through last year with the offensive line play, and the questioning of Schotty. This year, even if the line isn't stellar, Sanchez doesn't show progress in the mental game, and try to strech the field, I would say no. However, if he shows, as I think he has so far this preseason, attention to his footwork, pocket presence and quick good decisions, then yes he is. Again, we do not need a Brady, Manning (of old), Manning, Brees, etc. With that said, not for his salary, but that is a conversation for another day.

    Disclaimer: I am not a fan of Sanchez.
     

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