living far south of NYC the majority of jets games ive ever been to have been in sun life / proplayer stadium - I have been to 2 dolphins games where fans have had a priviate aircraft flying banners that state (ver batim) "mr ross fire jeff ireland" circling around the stadium - One game there was a banner calling Sparano a "pendejo" .... yet the media does not make it the top story on ESPN, as the NY media does - the NY media and sports media nationwide have this affinity for the JETS and take every locker room fart and turn it into a media specticale - Id like to personally spit in Drew Bledsoes fucking face and tell him playing for the bills is like a full out castration/estrogen injection, rather than a virgin sacrifice. Im so sick of everyone shitting on the JETS...
in my eyes my jets players and coach have more heart than anyone in this league. thats the reason i still watch
1-8 is ridiculous ,this franchise has never lost 9 in a row in franchise history,we are knocking on historys door this sunday
2 years is forever? I believe in giving guys chances before I give up on them. If 2/3 years down the road and we're still in this situation then yes fire him. But right now, no.
This is just a circular argument at this point. We're rebuilding. But you have to pick up impact players in the draft to rebuild. But you can't evaluate the roster after this short a time. How is Rex supposed to coach a team with so many holes. But we're rebuilding. Let's face it, you just can't rebuild in this media market. The moment the team goes in the toilet, everyone wants everybody fired, no rational argument to the contrary will ever be heard on a national level.
Rebuild implies making progress in a steady fashion. I see no evidence of that. I see the team getting worse, not better. I see an approach based on harvesting draft picks undermined by mostly poor choices using those picks. I see a failure to address roster needs in any positive fashion. And I see no reason to think the FO is about to do better. Idzik has no track record of success. There quite simply is no reason to expect he will do better with more time.
Rebuild or not rebuild, this team has too much talent to go 1-15. Rebuild doesnt mean you can just fail on 2 straight drafts and take this team back to the Kotite days. The state of the Jets is an utter embarassement. Someone has to be the fall guy.
Then no, you can't rebuild. It takes more than 2 years to rebuild. We aren't even through year 2 and people are spending their actual real life money on billboards to have a guy fired. You 100% cannot rebuild in NY. And it's probably why we'll never win a title.
I dont know if Idzik is the answer at GM, I'm leaning towards no, but I'm not positive yet. Having said that, you really cant bottom out with this team in this market. The fans wont really tolerate it. It will be impossible to go through a total rebuild from the ground up. From a rebuilding sense, going 1-15 could be the best thing they could do. They'll fire the GM and coach, start fresh with the number 1 pick and a lot of cap space. We can go grab Mariota (or Winston), sit him for a year and continue to rebuild. Next year we'll win 5 or 6 games with a journeyman QB, collect more talent and then in 2016 we'll have a QB with legitimate talent around him.
You can't rebuild anywhere adding 2-3 players a year. I'll give Idzik a pass on Geno, he looked like he may be worth the gamble, but in two years we have no WR, 1 TE, no RB, 1 lineman and so far, no CB's that can stay on the field. You can't take 4-5 years to "rebuild". What are Mangold and Brick gonna look like in 3 years? Kerley? Even Decker will be long in the tooth. So on top of the holes we now have, we're gonna need to fill these positions before this "rebuild" is over. We can do it, but not all through the draft. We need to spend money and draft a lot better than Idzik has to date.
In two years we have no WR? We have Decker and Harvin. That's a MONSTROUS upgrade from where we were two years ago. We have no RB? Come on man, you've got to be kidding me.
That is precisely the point. We can see in two seasons that the so-called rebuild is not going quickly enough. Whatever positive additions have taken place have been too small in number and occurred too slowly. Meanwhile other holes start opening up that will have to be filled down the road. As of now Idzik has supplied only three solid starters in two years, that being Richardson, who btw is not having as good a year as last year, but still. Decker is another, of course filled in FA. And if we count Ivory as a starter, he's the third. Winters was replaced by Aboushi, but Winters sucked last year and Aboushi is still an unknown commodity. Pryor is starting, too, but is hardly a solid player, so far anyway. Amaro may become a starter, likely will, but is not one yet. And the mess that is the QB position is hardly one where we can talk about solid starters. (Breno imo doesn't count since he replaced Howard - at best a lateral move.) Meanwhile holes have opened up in effect at BOTH Cb positions, the OL is in decline, and there are aging LB's in Pace and arguably Harris. Not quick enough.
Draft my friend, the draft is where Idzik claimed to build from. What's CJ gonna look like in 2 years? Harvin for 10 mil. a year? He may restucture, but even then at top dollar.
Harvin will restructure at top dollar if he plays the way a top dollar player plays. He's going to get what he's worth. If there's one thing we know, it's that Idzik is not going to overpay no matter how badly the fanbase wants him to. And who cares about CJ? Since when was he ever part of the longerm plan? Ivory has proven he can carry the workload. The problem is we don't have an offensive coordinator that historically abandons the running game whenever he has the opportunity. I agree we need a complementary back at some point, but right now that's far from an issue.
