In what ways does Zach Wilson need to improve

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  1. dmw

    dmw Well-Known Member

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    2 things I can think of off the top of my head:

    1. Consistency
    2. He needs to bulk up a little so he can take the hits better.
     
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    ZW led the league in time of possession after the snap. Over half his sack occured after he held the ball for 4 seconds or longer. A lifetime in NFL standards. edit...he was the 3rd or 4th most sacked QB last season with around 50 hits. That's A LOT for any QB, let alone as you mentioned a smallish framed human.

    Sooo...ZW needs to get much better at coming off his first read sooner and throwing to his outlet WR, or just throwing the ball away. He's so determined to make every play work that he stays with it far too long. He could use some help with a true #1 WR who can get open in 2-3 seconds (second edit) and come down with the ball after Zack hits him in the hands, that would help tremendously!
     
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    Agree with adding weight, which I think he said he's going to do at the end of last season.

    In addition to that:

    Blitz pickup
    Short & medium accuracy
    Touch on short passes
    Get rid of the ball more quickly
    Take the easy stuff, get more comfortable with dinking and dunking
    Go through progressions better, tended to lock in on one guy his first year
    Know when to throw the ball away

    Probably some others I'm forgetting.
     
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    Get me the Damn Ball Well-Known Member

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    He really struggles with short/medium passes where he should have a high completion percentage. Often he is way off on very short passes to open wideouts/RBs.
    That is also what worries me most about him.
     
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    He needs to be able to make plays without turning the ball over. He started the season throwing downfield with no caution like he was still at BYU and was an interception machine. Then after the injury, he stopped throwing interceptions but that was by going extreme game manager. Neither are sufficient to be a starting NFL QB.
     
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  7. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Consistency is the biggest one. Everything he struggled with at times, he also showed he could do very well on at other times. He needs consistency in his footwork and timing, and I think most of the rest will come with that.
     
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    That's not true, jets need a new offensive line, just ask the fanbase
     
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    Fans are always in denial and the last to know!
     
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    Accuracy on his short throws particularly in the flat ….

    Some have mentioned learning to throw the ball away but I feel I saw alot of improvement in that area especially in the last 4-6 weeks.
     
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    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Not so sure I agree about the weight. I'm afraid if he bulks up, he won't be as flexible and I think he needs flexibility to make the kinds of throws we saw him make in college and to evade rushers. Strength, okay, but not so much weight.
     
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  12. James Hasty

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    Read defenses better

    Hit his receivers in stride with a catchable ball

    Get rid of the ball faster

    Avoid turnovers

    I think Zach has good mobility and OK pocket awareness but needs a lot of work.
     
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    -Having the right touch on throws
    -Make quicker decisions
    -Taking what the defense gives him
    -Compete for his job like Lawrence will in Jacksonville(this might be made up)
     
  14. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    QBs in the NFL do not compete for the starting job. It's like the Tuna said, "If you have two QBs, you have none." When you draft a potential FQB, he IS the guy until he proves beyond a shadow of a doubt he isn't. We aren't anywhere near that point with Zach.

    I believe the quicker decisions will come. They did at BYU. Quicker decision making by QBs is a product of a QB being cerebral/high football IQ, being able to process quickly, and preparation (watching lots of film to recognize blitzes, tendencies of the opposing team, and knowing one's offense.) We know that Zach has a high football IQ and he is a film rat. We know that he processed very quickly at BYU. We know he asks a ton of questions thinking ahead of even his coaches. With a year's experience in the offense, and with MLF having a year's experience in getting to know Zach, in play calling and being the OC, I feel very confident that this will not be an issue this season or for long, if at all. Most rookie QBs aren't ready to play against all the complex blitzes and D alignments in the NFL, so they wind up processing more slowly than they do normally. He might struggle a little the first time he plays a team he hasn't played yet, but I don't think it will be a problem.

    Taking what the defense gives him, is true for the OC as well as the QB. If the QB doesn't have the freedom to audible out of a play, then he is at the mercy of the play call of the OC. Some OCs and HCs insist on imposing their will upon the other team rather than taking what the D gives them. I don't know Saleh and MLF well enough yet to know if they will take what the D gives them, but I think they probably lean in that direction rather than being the old school "impose their will" type.
     
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    I totally agree. I think with the comfort of being in the offense for a year, understanding what his teammates can do and will do, and working with MLF for a year, will have Zach more at ease, not having to think so much, and letting his natural ability take over. He works hard and prepares. There's nothing he cannot do talent wise at QB, except run over people like Cam Newton did.

    I don't want him taking sacks unnecessarily, but I also don't want him throwing the ball away all the time as some fans think he should do. Part of his game and a big part of why we drafted him is his ability to extend plays, create, and make something out of nothing. We don't want that taken out of his game. There are times he needs to throw the ball away however, and move on to the next play. Experience will teach him when to throw it away and when to extend plays.
     
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    The website 'The Ringer' summed it up well:

    "Wilson’s processing remains debilitatingly slow, and it has multiple negative effects on his game. There are plays during which Wilson’s slow process means the ball is delivered to the checkdown well after the checkdown is a viable option: Zone defenders have already keyed on the route and are closing downhill, ensuring that the gain will be marginal at best, a loss at worst"

    https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/12/15/22836791/zach-wilson-new-york-jets-struggles

    you have to be able move the chains first and foremost
     
  17. bicketybam

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    Also from the Ringer

     
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    cval Well-Known Member

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    He had to look hard for that one. There is plenty of credible sources breaking down Zach's games.
     
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  19. NYJetsO12

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    Simple..Learn enough to Win games and not Bust out

    If it's same problems listed by half a dozen posters above the future may be far from rosy

    OTOH He could have his bust out greatness year plus a new girlfriend ha
     
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    That quote is usually attributed to John Madden, its context is unknown; Madden was a successful coach who I believe put the best players on the field regardless of their salary or draft position.

    Here's what Parcells said about competition:

    If you got anything to you at all as an athlete and a competitor, you don't care what the circumstances are. You still got competition.

    Bill Parcells
     
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