This is not what I necessarily THINK will happen, but this is what I HOPE will happen for the New York Jets. Trades: The Jets trade #4 to the Minnesota Vikings for #17, #48, #51 and #147 The Jets trade #211 and #217 to Chicago for #195 #4 = 1800 #17, #48, #51, #147 = 1812 Cuts Derrick Blaylock - June 1st cuts Joel Dreessen - Practice squad Dante Ridgeway - waived Darrien Johnson - waived Draft Picks 17(via Minnesota) - Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State Why: While it may not be the popular pick, it is a pick that very well could happen. Santonio Holmes is the ideal fit for a run and gun type of offense that Schottenheimer has already said that he will be running. Laveranues Coles gives us a very good threat on one side of the field in the 1-15 yard range, but the team is going to lack a deep threat for the future. Tim Dwight would fill in fine for now, but he's not a longterm solution in terms of our downfield game. Who else: If DeAngelo falls to here, he very well could be an option. I didn't select him because I don't like the idea of taking a runningback this year when we have three capable ones on the roster. It wouldn't be fair to DeAngelo to draft him and then have him share time with Martin/Houston for 1-3 more years. 29(via Atlanta through Denver) - Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn Why: Again, it may not be the consensus selection right here, but right tackle was clearly our worst position last year along the offensive line. Now with old man rivers Fabini out of the way, we can add McNeill and give us a solid LT-RT combination for many years to come. McNeill hasn't let up a sack since he was a freshmen, and he's an absolute mammoth who mauls defenders when run blocker. Sounds a lot like Kareem McKenzie to me. Who Else: Nick Mangold would certainly be a possibility here, however it is very likely that he falls to our second round pick. The draft really has good centers that will last all the way until the end of the fourth, so I'm not as keen on Mangold as everyone else is. Will he be a good center? Yes, however I don't think that it's a pick we need to make. 35 - Max Jean-Gilles, OG, Georgia Why: Pete Kendall isn't going to be around forever, so I really see no reason in passing up the best guard prospect in YEARS. The guy flat out mauls people and Georgia's offensive line really took over the game during the Sugar Bowl; partly because of his presence in the middle of it. He's a smart player and really knows how to set up and block. He's a big lead footed, but aren't all offensive lineman? I could really care less how he timed, he's 360 god damn pounds. He's not going to run a 4.4 Who else: I'm going to get smashed for not taking Mangold here, however I really don't believe that he is that much ahead of someone like Mike Degory, Greg Eslinger or Ryan Cook. His weaknesses are that he's not very explosive and he's not good one on one against nose tackles.. That could be a problem in a division that has two 3-4 defenses WITH Vince Wilfork, Keith Traylor and Manuel Wright. 48(via Minnesota) - Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia Why: I've been high on Pope since he put up 100 on Auburn which is probably the fastest defensive in the SEC. He has tremendous size, leaping ability and resembles Antoio Gates in many ways. He's not quite the leaper, but his long arms and extremely soft hands make up for it. I think he's one of the most well rounded players in the draft, but will fall because he doesn't have the flashy times like Vernon Davis, or the production like Marcedes Lewis. That's fine though, I'd love to have this beast on my team anyday. Who else: Orien Harris is the only other player I'd really see as a target here. I think Harris has the perfect ability to play end in the 3-4, only we really have enough depth there, that we don't need to take a defensive lineman on the first day of the draft. He can penetrate, but I really think acquiring Leonard Pope is more vital to our teams success then yet another 3-4 end. 51(via Minnesota) - Rodrique Wright, DT/DE, Texas Why: While we may have found the short term solution to our 3-4 end epidemic with Kimo, we will need someone to man the position in the future. He's a very good penetrater, and can really explode off the ball. He needs someone to light a fire under his ass, and falling this far in the draft after being a first rounder might be a wake up call. This is really a potential pick and is similar to the selection of Chris Canty by the Cowboys only a year ago. Who else: Daryll Tapp and Stanley McClover are the two players that come to mind. It was either a 3-4 end or another 3-4 rushbacker. It was a tough decision, but I decided that the linebacking talent we have on the squad is enough. We have a group of very deep linebackers right now and Bryan Thomas and Eric Barton deserve a propper audition to sack the quarterback. 71 - Maurice Drew, RB, UCLA Why: The final player to our very offensive heavy draft thusfar, Maurice Drew is a workhorse at 5'6" or 6'10". Size does not matter for this kid, because he's built like a brick wall with one of the strongest lower bodies you'll find. He may not break many tackles at the second level, but I bet you, Maurice could run over a bunch of safeties in the NFL. A very compact runner that stays low and will really drive his legs. Adds depth to our special teams as well. Who else: Eric Henderson and Stanley McClover are both again, solid rushbacker selections, however Drew is a talent you just can't pass up. Reggie Bush has 4 inches on this kid, yet Drew weighs more and runs a better 40. He will be overlooked, but will definitley turn into a star. 97 - Stanley McClover, DE/OLB, Auburn Why: You heard me talk about him within the past two picks and I think he will flourish as a rushbacker. He has a wide arsenal of moves to deceive tackles, and he moves very well to the ball. His only weakness is really that he plays high and his field awareness could be better. Will compliment Bryan Thomas, and Eric Barton very well though. Who else: I think at this point the picks can go many ways. Safety depth could be added, but there is not one player I'd rather take of McClover 103 - Mike Degory, C, Florida Why: One of the most talented centers in the draft in terms of blocking technique, I watched Degory all year at Florida. He is flat out nasty. He knocks players on their ass, plain and simple. With the addition of Trey Teague he can sit and learn the new system until he is ready. Not to mention 3 rookie starters is offensive suicide. 117(via KC) - Anthony Schlegel, ILB, OSU Why: I said that linebacker was addressed, but you can't pass up a guy like this. He's a bit more slewed towards run stopping, however that's all we'd need him for. There's nothing wrong with situational players, especially in a 3-4. With the addition of Schlegel, it would give us one of the deepest units in the league linebacking wise. 138 - Paul Pinegar, QB, Fresno St. Why: The type of player than can come in and add that winning dimension to the quarterback position. He is competitive and smart; could develop into a nice backup. 149 - Dwayne Slay, SS, Texas Tech Why: A very average player if you take away his hitting ability, but he brings such intensity to the game and is absolutely huge. Safety depth behind Coleman is needed, and will be a good special teamer so Washington can play on the defensive side. 173 - Matt Bernstein, FB, Wisconsin Why: The man is absolutely huge, and I really feel that he'd knock the shit out of some defenders. He's one dimensional, but he will compliment Askew nicely and be our short yardage guy. 195 - Justin Wyatt, CB, USC Why: The Jets see him late and move up to get him. A special team project whom will have to get stronger in his arms and work on his technique. Depth Chart QB: Patrick Ramsey > Chad Pennington (injury) > Brooks Bollinger > Paul Pinegar RB: Curtis Martin > Cedric Houston > Maurice Drew FB: B.J. Askew > Matt Bernstein WR1: Laveranues Coles > Justin McCareins > Tim Dwight WR2: Santonio Holmes > Jerricho Cotchery TE: Leonard Pope > Doug Jolley > Chris Baker LT: Adrian Jones > Steve Morley LG: Pete Kendall > Max Jean-Gilles C: Trey Teague > Mike Degory RG: Brandon Moore > Isaac Snell RT: Marcus McNeil > Scott Gragg RDE: Kimo Von Oelhoffen > Rodrique Wright NT: DeWayne Robertson > Sione Pouha LDE: Shaun Ellis > James Reed ROLB: Matt Chatham > Bryan Thomas SILB: Victor Hobson > Anthony Schlegel WILB: Jonathan Vilma > Brad Kassell LOLB: Eric Barton > Stanley McClover CB1: Andre Dyson > Justin Miller CB2: David Barrett > Derrick Strait FS: Kerry Rhodes > Rashad Washington SS: Erik Coleman > Dwayne Slay P: Ben Graham K: Mike Nugent PR: Maurice Drew > Tim Dwight KR: Tim Dwight > Justin Miller
You can't PS Dreessen... we need him as our LS. Pope won't last to 48 so it won't make a difference. I love the rest of the draft though Add Wroten or another big DT at 48 if possible because D-Rob does not cut it as the 3-4 NT.
And you think Claude Wroten will? Wroten is a smaller version of Robertson, only Wroten has legal troubles. I'd much rather bet the house on Robertson succeeding (shorter, more compact and a better motor for Robertson) than Wroten. We have Dearth to long snap. Pope could fall especially considering a bunch of cornerbacks and safeties have been rising (Simpson, Allen, Marshall, Joseph, Whitner, Youboty, Manning and Griffin, etc.) Also keep in mind that Dominique Byrd had an amazing Senior Bowl weak and may have surpassed Pope especially since Byrd is more compact and stout. And Kassell isn't a run stuffer, and he isn't going to start over Vilma. So I doubt he starts, although he will get playing time.
Not enough value for the 4, I think. We have plenty of picks, and I don't see the reasoning for trading away from Cutler/Williams/Ferguson to get Holmes and later picks.
Well we get Leonard Pope, Rodrique Wright, Santonio Holmes and Dwayne Slay over Williams or Ferguson. Considering that we have two 3-4 ends (and only needed depth behind Kimo), and a capable left tackle, I don't really see a point in taking either of them, so why not trade down?
Dont really have a problem with your draft, its a rather novel approach, and I cant say I would mind it. Im interested though, where did you read that little bit on Schott running a run-and-gun offense? Otherwise, I dont see the point in drafting a deep threat, when our QB (Penny, not Ramsey) dosent have the arm to get him the ball anyway
I'm pretty sure it was in an article on the board. That's what they ran in San Diego with a very bad line as well, and really average receivers. I think giving Ramsey two good receivers like Coles and Holmes would really make up for what would be our young offensive line if this draft were to go through.
I hate the Holmes pick and I hate the trade. There is no way I'm trading down to 17. Who is Minn trading 4 picks for anyway? We do need a WR but Holmes is only a first round pick because the WR class is average at best. The only way I would trade down is if we are staying in the top 9 to target Cutler.
