i was a big supporter of clemens, and a hater on sanchez ever since the mock drafts. i would like to extend my apologies, sanchez looks great and moves the offense nicely clemens doesn't. he just does not possess the skill necessary. im all for ainge as the number 2.....
Agree with above. I also felt like Clemens was shafted ... But every opportunity he got he. Blows it. VIVA SANCHEZ!
Ainge is not ready to be a #2, do not let this preseason fool you. Clemens will be fine as Mark's backup.
I was also a Clemens guy - and even recently thought he should start while Sanchez learns.... I'm still hanging on Clemens a bit - It's a bit hectic playing with the backups for a series here or there and not being able to find a rythm with an OL and Keller around.... He looked pretty good Vs the Real Ravens Defense 2 years ago - I think in game situations, if Clemens has to come in, he'll be fine with littel drop off at this point.
Junc, what does Ainge have to do to be ready as a #2? Throw 3 TD passes in 2 possessions? Why do you say that Ainge isn't ready? What do you base that on?
It's not about #s or preseason play. He has played well but against guys who will not be NFL players. The speed difference from the preseason to reg season for starters is huge, imagine playing against guys that won't e NFL players then having to come in for Sanchez at some point? He made great strides this summer but he's not ready yet.
What makes you think that 2's or 3's won't be in the league Junc? Did you see the amount of scouts that were at the Raven's game? Being a 2 on the Ravens doesn't mean you stink, it means you're behind someone who is a member of an elite defense. Being a 2 on the Rams is a different thing altogether. Its all relative Junc. I can guarantee you that alot of those 2's that don't make the Ravens will make other rosters. Same goes for the Steelers and probably the Pats as well. Hell, Danny Ware and Bradshaw were 2's on the Jets and look at them now. How many 2's and 3's have outplayed Gholston this preseason alone? Don't sleep on the 2's and 3's. That would be a mistake..
Clemens has the worst luck. He is an average QB with skill, but his luck is just awful. I am not giving up on him, he will probably succeed elsewhere. Not here in New York though.
Some guys will make it, some will even be really good but the majority won't. Ainge may be a good starter someday, I don't know but qwhat I do know is that he's not a #2 RIGHT NOW. Bradshaw wasn't w/ the Jets it was Derrick Ward.
I stand corrected. Still, you get my point. Lets change it up a bit shall we? What makes you think Clemens is a better option at 2? Based on..2007?
Based on I know he can play. A backup doesn't have to be a star, they just have to be competent, I know he can do that. Remember how bad Chad looked behind that OL in 2007? last year he was 2nd in MVP voting, I'm not saying KC will be that good but as a backup I have confidence in him. I liked waht I saw of Ainge but he still has alot of work to do. A year from now I hope he will be ready to be a #2 but he's not right now and it would be foolish to make him one especially behind a rookie QB. If they don't feel KC can get the job done as a 2 they will be looking for a vet QB to come in and back up sanchez.
I have to admit that I've been pulling for Clemens also and wanted him to start over Sanchez because I thought his experience gave him the edge in the decision. But three things have happened since then: 1) Clemens failed to make a clear-cut case for himself by using his experience to distance himself from a rookie with zero NFL experience and only 16 college starts. 2) Sanchez DID make a clear-cut case for himself by demonstrating he has "it." 3) Clemens' INTs were more than disturbing and the final nail in the coffin. To have named him the starter after watching that would have made me extremely uneasy.
Chad was much better behind that line than Clemens. Much better completion pct, QB rating, less sacks, less ints.
Chad was better as he should have been(though many on here argued at the time that KC was better) but the facts are Chad had his worst season then w/ a good OL last year we saw what he was able to do.
The main thing that always separated Chad from Clemens was, he was smarter. I've always pulled for Clemens, but I've always questioned whether or not he has the necessary cerebral tools. For a rookie, Sanchez demonstrated that he can make good split-second decisions, something that Clemens still has difficulty with, IMO.
QB ratings are nice and everything but Clemens actually moved the ball and won games, Chad didn't. If you want to keep believing Chad was better, keep your nose in the stat books.
The only team they both played was Miami and they both won. Any other comparison makes no sense. The defense and FG kicker beat Pittsburgh and Herm threw the KC game so he could get the draft pick.
I personally don't see the rush to move Ainge up to #2. KC is just fine as a #2. When it's necessary to remove him as the #2 then by all means.
You know KC walks at year's end right? We won't get anything in return for Clemens so in effect, he becomes dead weight. Showcase him in a few games and see if you can get a late 4th or 5th or something for him. Just make sure Ainge is groomed to take over the #2 job in '10 by getting in as much garbage time reps (assuming the Jets actually get in games with garbage time) as possible.
