Taking 2 players at the same position early in a draft is something we’ve seen some of the better run organizations do lately, to increase the chances of hitting at a position of need. Baltimore, Indianapolis, and Buffalo have all done it in recent years, notably the Bills and Colts both drafted Edge rushers in round 1 and 2 last year. I would be intrigued with the Jets taking an Edge early in Rd 1 then again in Round 2. How would you feel about it?
I’ve read multiple times on this board how it was stupid to take the same position 2xs when Mac did it…. I’m a fan especially later in the 2nd or the 3rd to take a flyer out on Bonitto.
As a fan I’d be open to the idea. You can never have enough EDGE and the position has been ignored in the draft by the Jets forever. Plus nobody truly knows what kind of shape Lawson will be in post injury.
That depends on the position. Taking safeties back to back at the top of the draft with more pressing needs is stupid. Taking EDGE or OL multiple times isn’t especially when a team is being built in the trenches.
I am totally against the idea. We aren't in a position to do that. That would be a luxury. The teams you cited were much better teams and didn't have all the holes that we have. In a couple of years, OK, but not now. I don't say the above lightly, either, because I've been screaming for Edge help for decades. That wouldn't be helping Zach develop. The emphasis on D on this forum is over the top. Nothing is as important as ensuring that Zach develops. Don't give me the crap that having a strong D will help Zach, either. That's BS. Getting more opportunities would only help if Zach was able to take advantage of the opportunities, and with the crap TE corps, questionable WR, RB and OL corps we have, taking two Edges would be criminally wrong imo. If we take two of any position, it should be first and foremost at TE, but a case can be made for it at WR and RB moreso than at Edge.
Not a huge fan. I think we have enough needs where it'd be a waste of resources. Just on defense I'd consider CB and S to be of equal need as EDGE. Then there's offense where we badly need a TE and WR (assuming we handle G in FA).
For the record I highly doubt JD goes Edge twice in the draft. If KT is sitting there at #4 I’m 99% sure he’ll be the pick. At that point forward it’s time to focus on helping ZW. I believe other posters above are correct that while double dipping with EDGE can be a wise move, in the Jets case here in 2022 the focus really should be on developing ZW and the best way to do that is surround him with talent.
Hard no. Aside from still suffering PTSD over Macc taking TWO Safeties with his first 2 picks 5 years ago, with the amount of other holes on this team, taking two Edges with the first two picks is a luxury we can't afford. I'm even hesitant on taking two stud defensive players like KT at #4 and Hamilton #10, or Hamilton #4 and another top rated Edge (Karlaftis?) at #10 with the first two picks, but given the depth of the WR class, and the likelihood that he could get a stud TE with one of his top 5 picks, and hopefully grab a good FA G, I'd be okay with that. He needs to make sure however that he comes out of FA and the draft with the best offense he possibly can.
In a cap league you’re never deep enough at prime positions. Couple that with Lawson coming off a major injury and saleh’s preference for a heavy d line rotation, id say if the board falls that way, do it.
This is the key, JD has a chance to grab 4 playmakers at key positions, however if board gives you players you can’t pass over, take them, don’t do want Macagnan used to do and leave them for other teams to grab.
I won't disagree with this in general, but the bold is what's most important. Fill four holes with playmakers, don't overfill a hole with two and leave one hole empty.
The draft isn’t for filling holes as much as it’s for acquiring talent, particularly cheap talent. You fill holes in free agency. 2 rookie edge rushers this year are most likely your 2 starters in 2024 on friendlier deals than keeping Lawson and maybe even JFM .
The draft can definitely be for filling holes. Not prioritizing some positions over others is how you end up with Mike Maccagnan and 5 IDL's who hardly impact the game and need to be traded before their 2nd deals because they can't even all play at the same time. If Lawson comes back then one of the EDGE picks is likely useless for a couple years. Lawson isn't very reliable but he's also only 26 years old and pretty good when healthy. Even if both EDGE picks end up being good, the outcome still isn't great because then you're paying Carl Lawson $15 million to be a backup.
Perhaps, but that doesn't help Zach one iota, and is there relatively insignificant. The #1 priority has to be ensuring that Zach develops even if it hurts the D some in the short term.
I think this draft would be a good time to go Edge twice. I'm absolutely for It. Get It right, be done with It. A lot of depth at the position this year too. Yeah. Sign me up.
thought provoking question i'm largely a bpa guy so if the board falls that way then so be it. We took two OL in the first round before so it can work if the talent is there it would take some nads though to do that, with the various holes we have somehow i see us taking a LB in the second, third latest. Seems to be a SAN Fran thing i think we're looking for real impact in the first, e.g., Edge and a real electric receiver. Gut says IOL and LB in the second maybe a safety
Even if Lawson comes back he has a 15 mil cap hit in 2023 with a small cap hit if released and is definitely gone in 2024. The need for another edge will emerge again very soon. I’m not saying actively look to do it but don’t not do it because you think adding 1 is enough depth. Too deep at edge would be a champagne problem
Not being down 3 scores early would help Zach. Not having to abandon the run would help a lot. Getting stops and turnovers would definitely help.
Yeah but we'd still essentially be banking on Lawson not working out considering we do have him through 2023 if we want. I think drafting a position because you'll need it in 2 years doesn't make much sense.
