Under 10 Million This fan base had a problem paying certain unnamed Elite talents more than that before 6yrs/54M~35M Guaranteed
The way he sounds. If we re sign him this year! I think we have a chance at a 9 mill a year contract. Opens the door to keep Sheldon and I think he wants and understands the need to have someone else talented with him. I still wouldn't yet trust the Jets draft mantra just yet it needs to sustain some very deep teams before i believe and he believe so i wouldnt be surprised for a bloated contract ....
now that I can complete my thought… lol, While its mostly been defensive backs making bank this year, it will soon come time for defensive lineman like Muhammad Wilkerson and Watt (and even Suh) to be extended. Wilkerson is the best player on the jets period, good guy off the filed, is as quality a 3-4 DE as they come, and we can assume He WILL be paid handsomely. question is, how much his gonna make? Assuming he's re-signed in 2014, what I'm picturing is: 5 years 67 million, 28 million guaranteed, including an 18 million dollar signing bonus (which accounts for 3.6 mill a year added on the cap) year- cap hit 2015- 11 mil 2016- 14 mil 2017- 11 mil 2018- 16 million 2019- 15 million the dip in 2017 is to help cover his buddy Sheldon's new deal. that year is also the point where his guarantees should end and he can be cut if necessary, though I'd sooner expect a restructuring of some type down the line. the spike after 2017 might constitute a total cap hit with incentives of some type paid out, like say he makes all pro and he gets paid 2 mill better for it. It matter less as much of whats already guaranteed has been paid out already. In fact if deal gets done this year his signing bonus won't even last longer than that as it can only last 5 years. I'm just thinking out loud, and I'm aware that Watts deal will likely have an effect on that of Wilk's but its been on the brain and I wanted to see what my fellow Jet fans thought. whats the damage gonna be like?
I'm hoping he is counting toward this year's cap. 14 - 18m 15 - 16m 16 - 13m 17 - 14m 18 - 13m 19 - 11m
Top 3 DE (3-4) for comparison: Ngata: 4yr - $48M/$27M guaranteed Campbell: 5yr - $55M/$17M guaranteed Dockett: 4yr - $35M/$15M guaranteed I would assume that JJ Watt will get more than the $12M avg that Ngata currently has. That probably puts Mo in the $11-12M average. Maybe he takes a hometown discount of $10M avg with higher guarantee.
its probably not gonna go down this way, well maybe he makes that much in terms of cash in hand, but not cap hit. The problem is this provides no security for Wilkerson's continued stay as a jet, all his guarantees will be be more than out of the way after 2015, its no more secure than the deal he has now. Thats what signing bonuses are for, just forwarding a lot of money thats dispersed evenly over the duration of the deal so a player isn't axed early on. he also needs to make a decent amount in base salary as the contract grows, why would he want to make less money as he hit his pique?
Well, I guess I should have stated this is including bonus money. The Jets can afford to front load a contract for a player that doesn't show to be a holdout threat.
There are no 3-4 defensive ends making more than $12M a year at this point. I don't think a Mo Wilk deal gets done this year unless the guy in Houston gets his deal and both sides have something to peg Mo Wilk's value at. I expect Mo Wilk will get his deal after 2014 and that if he has a great season he has a real shot at the kind of deal expressed above. Right now to sign him the Jets would probably want less than a $10M a year deal. If they're going to have to take the HUGE risk that a mega-deal represents they might as well get 2014 behind them before they do that to minimize the risk some.
I agree. If he gets a deal right now it means he is willing to take less in order to avoid getting basically nothing this year (and still not much for the following year or 2 if we take team options/franchise him). He would have to take less than he's worth so it's not an incentive for him unless he or his agent is concerned about an injury or not producing up to his standards. Ideally, for the Jets, he deal would get done right now given our cap situation and the fact that Wilk would get less than his value (although the argument could be made that we want to see how he performs next year to better determine his value.) Nevertheless, it's very unlikely until JJ Watt gets his deal done. Wilk will make less than him, but I'm not sure how much less.
2014: 11mil salary, 5mil signing bonus, 2 mil incentives 2015: 10mil salary, 5mil signing bonus, 1 mil incentives 2016: 12mil salary, 1mil signing bonus 2017: 9mil salary, 4mil signing bonus, 1mil incentives 2018: 11mil salary, 1mil incentives 2019: 11mil salary 6 year, 85 million dollar contract, 12mil signing bonus, 6mil in incentive pay which may or may not be earned.
I like it. of course, i think the signing bonus has to be equal each year (so a 2.4 mill prorated bonus every year expect 2019) and it would need to happen right friggin NOW in order to capitalize off that sizable base salary from this year. but thats a deal he can't refuse, and its pretty workable for the jets overall.
Is there something in the CBA stating that the signing bonus needs to be equal every year? If so, I wasn't aware, my bad, I was trying to make the money make sense. My deal is that the big hits do need to happen early for this guy, he needs to live the life. But yeah, 6 years 85mil is perfect for a guy of his caliber. The signing bonus is key. Fucking Jay Mohr just hung up on me.
Players get the entire signing bonus when they sign their contract. The cap hit is evenly divided between every year in the contract for up to five years.
Not that I'm doubting you, but do you know the sections of the CBA that can be found? I'm being a little lazy, if you don't know then don't sweat it, I'll find it myself.
I love Jay Mohr. His Colin Quinn impression might be my favorite thing in the world. When he does phoners for the O&A show he always kills. ive never heard his sports show though is it any good?
