how far ahead must JD plan?

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  1. bleedgreen

    bleedgreen Well-Known Member

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    Unless something bad happens, no more moves this season. Its great the Jets have a fantastic young core, but that must create salary problems down the road, when new contracts must be signed for many players. Surely his main focus is now on the off season, contract extensions, potential free agents, potential drafts, roster construction for 2023. And yes, the cap keeps going up. Still, how far ahead does he plan? Its not an easy job, but he has been superb so far. I am very interested in what he does with his good, older (?) players with expiring contracts. It would keep me up at night.
     
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    The cap is a myth
     
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  3. mrjet80

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    I don’t desire having to make those kind of decisions but you have to remember the older most players get the more injury prone they become and their play on the field begins to drop off. So a lot of those decisions shouldn’t be hard at all. One example would be Denzel Mims gradually taking over for Corey Davis (assuming he continues to progress).

    What JD needs to do is to continue to draft well to replace the fazed out players and not to blow huge amounts of money in FA. This strategy has worked well for the most part in Baltimore where he learned the tricks of the trade.

    JD’s other goal is to secure his young core after their rookie deals expire and to do so as to not knock the cap out of balance.

    It will be interesting to watch as it’s been a long time since the Jets have been in this kind of position.
     
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  4. Jeff M

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    The Atlanta Braves have the best model. They identify the young players that they have who are keepers, and then they extend them at a deal that is team friendly, but yet gets good money out to the youngsters.
     
  5. bleedgreen

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    I Think the young core allows them to be a top ten team for many years. Depending on how they develop, there are potentially a whole lot of players who need resigning within a few years of one another. A good problem to have, but a potential problem nonetheless. Does JD extend his planning to 2024, when the 2021 players start to expect big bucks. Or to 2025, with even more guys expecting huge contracts. My thinking isn't about answers, its about JD's preparation for the future and how he goes about it.
     
  6. NJJets

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    All JD needs to do is keep doing what he’s doing. Draft great players consistently and you won’t suffer much for losing great players.
     
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    Other teams find a way to retain their talent. At this point, I see Sauce, G Wilson, AVT, and Q as the most likely to get second contracts.
     
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    This year I can see Joe drafting a Center, offensive tackle and a linebacker. I think we give , Kwon, Joyner & Quincy another year.. Scary thing is we may have the whole defense back for next year.
     
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  9. bleedgreen

    bleedgreen Well-Known Member

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    Hall,carter, dont know when reed up.
     
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    Get me the Damn Ball Well-Known Member

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    Initially I wanted JD to get aggressive in FA this offseason while all these guys are on rookie/team-friendly deals. But I think we're better off re-signing some of our core young guys (who are eligible) now and continue adding pieces through the draft.
     
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  11. bleedgreen

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    Also hate to lose greg the leg. Kickers can last forever
     
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    The biggest key is to not make the same mistake Tannenbaum did. Tannenbaum gave Sanchez a new contract and pay raise at a time when literally nobody else in the league would have signed him as a starting QB (for good reason, he sucked). It killed a championship contender.
     
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    4-5 years from now is going to be some tough calls. zach will either have a big deal or be gone. sauce, hall, wilson, and JJ will all need deals.
     
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    Exactly, just like all the other top teams. Excellent post.
     
  15. mrjet80

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    Definitely a LB and probably a center. Unless JD elects to resign McGovern but I really think the Jets can improve the center position through the draft now that most of their more pressing needs appear to have been filled.

    I originally pegged OT as another huge need but not only do the Jets have some sneaky good depth at the position but they may elect to keep AVT at OT. Remember Mitchell is coming back and seemed to hold down RT just fine. Becton will be back in the fold and although the Jets can’t count on him with his injury history, I imagine JD will give him another chance being he is still on his rookie deal. We also don’t know if JD brings back Fant.
     
  16. bleedgreen

    bleedgreen Well-Known Member

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    My point exactly. So when does JD take these considerations into his planning process? Does it effect 2023 in any way?
     
  17. GasedAndConfused

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    probably 2-3 years ahead. thats how far most GMs plan unless they are on the hot seat. for example this 2022 draft was being planned since we traded adams in 2020.
     
  18. bleedgreen

    bleedgreen Well-Known Member

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    Sure, cause we got picks andhad a terrible roster. We are no longer in that position. There must be at least , maybe more,10 young players the jets want to keep long term. So does Jd pencil in those guys for 2024/25, and then plan aroind that, or does he look forward only 1/2years. My hope is he is planning on keeping those 10 guys, carving out potential salaries, and planning around that. Its also certainly possible we will operate on a year to year basis. Injuries, free agents,draft can make looking into the future difficult
     
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    hopefully, the earlier you make the move, the more "team friendly" the deal becomes.
    While I like what the Braves have done (but I HATE that team), it's hard to use the same philosophy in football due to nature of injuries and career length, but it makes sense for sure.
     
  20. ramjets29

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    JD is constantly looking ahead. I don't see us being aggressive in free agency at all. We don't have much room (~$11mm) and the only players we could "cut" to save significant $ are all valuable: Lawson ($15mm in savings), C. Davis ($11mm in savings), Whitehead ($8mm in savings w/ a $3mm dead cap hit), Berrios ($5mm in savings w/ a $3mm dead cap hit), D. Brown ($5mm in savings w/ a $6mm dead cap hit). A lot can change but the only realistic cut may be Davis but w/ Wr's making crazy money and E. Moore in the dog house who knows. I think the focus might be on the UFA's that JD wants back: In no particular order: M. White, G. Fant, C. McGovern, Q. Williams, K. Alexander, S. Rankins, L. Joyner, B. Huff, N. Herbig...a lot of tough choices this off season.
     

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