How did the 2015 Season even happen!?

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  1. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    2014 the Jets were UNWATCHABLE and finished (4-12). The games were brutal. 2016 the Jets are currently (3-9) and UNWATCHABLE again. The games again brutal.

    Sandwiched in between? A (10-6) 2015 season filled with a lot of fun and excitement. How can this happen? You could simply look at the schedule and say it was easier than 2016. True. However, the Jets have had so called easy games this year and looked pathetic in them.

    It's not like that much of the roster has changed. Most of the players from 2014 and 2016 were on the successful and fun 2015 season.

    Is it lack of discipline? Lack of caring? Not sure. Were they just lucky last year?

    What do the fans of TGG think?
     
  2. JDeacon

    JDeacon Well-Known Member

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    Team gave up, inexperienced coaching staff does not have the ability to motivate / force the vets to play at a high level when faced with extreme adversity i.e. the first six weeks. Team collapsed around Fitz bullshit start mixed with Decker and no power running game = the shit show we have now.
     
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  3. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    Add Father Time kicking those who rested on thier laurels to the list of reasons for the Jets collapse.
     
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  4. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    A great question. It's obviously a combo of the vets getting older, couple key injuries, better competition and honestly we had a lot of bounces in 2015. We aren't getting those bounces this year.

    Also doesn't help that Wilk, Revis and Sheldon don't give a single fuck.
     
  5. No Fly Zone

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    It was a combination of weak schedule plus Mac "had" to spend money under the cap rules because idzik didn't. He brought in some fresh faces, some familiar ones and got a gift of Williams dropping to him in the draft. Bowles never made in-game adjustments last year but against dregs it didn't come back to bite his ass. Playing weak teams also allowed the talent on offense to win games as opposed to defense winning games.

    This year, they play a legit schedule where both sides of the ball have to show up, where a journeyman QB can't hide his weakness with jump balls to receivers, they don't have a RB to pound it between the tackles like they had with Ivory.

    Wilk got paid so the chip on his shoulder became soft and fluffy and he quit. No d'brick, Decker gone most of the year, Breno even worse this year, Gailey not play calling like his job depends on it, no improvement from last year by Bowles against better opponents. Skrine and Gilchrist get exposed for who they are this year against better teams. Mevi$ packs up the island and quits, Richardson stops playing hard, LB's not having a good season and here we are.

    Dead wood and heavy contracts can be cut after the season Revis, Mangold, Clady, Giacomini etc. that will allow Mac to hit the FA market for replacements. He just needs to do a good job. Either Decker or Brandon Marshall need to be dealt, either Richardson or Wilk need to be dealt etc.

    2017 Jets won't look anywhere near the same as this year imho "IF" Mac does his job properly.
     
  6. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Well the Jets did start 4-1 and then went 1-4, so it wasn't like it was smooth sailing.

    Even when they did win, it seemed that the opposing team, made more mistakes than the jets did.

    Jets did get some fortunate bounces but I don't remember a clean game from start to finish where you could say, they took care of business!

    They are a team that reflects their schedule.
     
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  7. NCJetsfan

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    A weaker schedule was definitely part of it. Fitz having a career year was a big part of it. That happens sometimes. I think another big part was the coaching change. Aside from Kotite, I don't think I've ever seen (or at least don't remember) a new coach coming in, having the same team or better, and then having a worse record his first season. Players usually listen to their new CS, give them the benefit of the doubt and try. By the second season, that starts wearing off or has worn off. They can start losing respect. I think the Jets were also lucky last season and got some good breaks.
     
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    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    Fitz had a healthy Decker and Marshall, two guys he relied on heavily for a whole year last year. This year, not only did he come to camp late, but Decker got hurt early in the year, and Fitz didn't have confidence in the young WR's. Not to mention, the defense took a major step back with Wilk either he doesn't care or he needs more time to recover. Remember he couldn't work out due to a broken leg, his conditioning and strength is and was probably behind more than anything.
     
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  9. JCLA

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    The rise and fall of Fitzmagic and the brand spankin' new landing strip on Revis Island is now open after being under construction last season.
     
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  10. NYJetsO12

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    Dream year becomes a nightmare

    The Team had talent on both sides of the ball with a QB "game manager"

    The difference was a legit tough schedule plus key injuries and a fraud at HC ...Total incompetence that was well hidden in 2015

    Fitzpatrick also incompetent at skill position

    Results : a Million Dollar Mess with that Shyster Revis grifting 14 mil a year

    Positives for Next Season : I think TB is gone and lots of young talent potential Meh on Gaily

    Meh on Mac until he gets a real CS
     
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    Just remarkable to me. Yes, Decker injury hurt, but Enunwa has emerged. That should not be enough. No doubt DBrick hurts, but he was not great in 2015. Still, he was way better than the LT Combo they have had this year. The defense falling off, besides Mo not being conditioned, still has no excuses. They are a flat out embarrassment that goes on Bowles and Rodgers shoulders. Just doesn't make sense to drop off this much.

    Again, remember 2014. It was similar. The team was a pathetic joke. Then last year inches away from the playoffs, where they could have done some damage at least. To now, where they are back to a pathetic joke. Just hard to fathom. Great answers so far though. I agree with it all.
     
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    Mo looked like he was carrying quite a bit of extra weight on MNF.
     
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    2 big reasons why we suck this year is the decline of revis and fitz.
     
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    i'm just gonna say quickly that i'm sick and tired of hearing about the cupcake schedule we had last year

    good teams are supposed to beat easy teams week-in and week-out. we did that. we were a good team last year and we are a shitty one this year. i don't know why we are bad now, but i'm not going to sit here and say we were shit last year
     
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    this too^

    who cares if the schedule was easy. we still took care of business.
    last years jets wouldn't have been stomped out by a decent colts team like we just did.
    last years jets didn't get passed on all day long like this years jets
    last years jets got sacks and pressure
    last years jets had a top run game
    last years jets didn't lead the NFL in turnovers and dropped passes
    last years jets didn't have the worst redzone offense, we had the best
     
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  16. NYJetsO12

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    That's last year

    This is now
     
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    The loss of Decker cannot be understated. He was Fitzpatricks favorite target and he and Marshall combined for 25 TDs. Obviously Decker has been out for the year and Marshall has not been the same since injuring his knee vs Buffalo.

    Defensively it's been a catastrophe. Revis and Wilkerson went from All Pros to trash. We had other high end starters like Harris, Pryor, and Gilchrist regress. Also Erin Henderson and Damon Harrison have been missed as McClendon and Lee have not been as good.
     
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  18. GasedAndConfused

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    what games are you watching? lee is a difference maker who is now playing 95% of the snaps. he's always flying around making plays and is outplaying henderson and harris. McClendon is doing great as well. he's stuffing the run and has a few sacks and pressures on the QB. those 2 aren't the issue at all. I'd say the loss of pace is bigger. while he slowed down with his age and wasn't an effect rusher anymore. he still got decent pressure and was smart and kept contain. our young OLBers give up contain way too much.

    Decker is a big loss for sure, but enunwa has really stepped up. Revis, wilk, and richardson aren't playing as good as they should be and were last year. neither is marcus williams. and most important fitz played like a top 10 QB last year and this year he is the worst starting QB in the NFL
     
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    Lee is on pace to be the next Pryor. An average starter who is overrated by Jets fans.
     
  20. Greenday4537

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    New coordinator, new QB, new system. Last year, people didn't have much film on us, plus weak schedule. Wilkerson was playing for a new contract, Fitz was playing for a new contract.

    This year? No changes to offensive gameplan. Still bad time management by Bowles. Doesn't hold players responsible for bad playing. Skrine was okay as a slot CB but he's an awful outside CB. Revis is getting paid so he doesn't care. Wilkerson got paid, so he doesn't care. I think Richardson wants to get paid but at this point, doesn't want to risk serious injury costing him a payday and he'll get one.

    Also Fitz sucks.
     
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