Lets face it. Patrick Ramsey has never played in a Jets uniform.. He's only played in a Redskins uniform sparingly. The guy is a 1st round pick, yet all most all Jets fans seem to think we got him as a 1 yr backup. I say we should not overlook what a fresh start could do for someone so young with his physical tools.. I somehow feel that the front office brought him in to give him a real genuine shot at taking control of this team. Imagine if that worked out. We got him very cheap. I for one have a gut feeling that he will pull off the upset. ( over Chad) and I definitely don't see the front office drafting a QB with their first round pick
I agree w/pretty much everything you say....I'm really hoping he turns the corner this year....he won't have much of a window of opportunity, but I think he has enough potential to turn into a really good qb in this league.
I agree, I also thought that when Cutler mentioned his Jet workouts included rolling the pocket if that wouldn't suit Bollinger as well.
I gathered that from the large contingent of Lienart/Young/Cutler supporters that are pulling for the team to draft them. If we drafted those guys, then we would have to play them soon, not to mention pay them right away.. Then if Ramsey pulls a drew Brees and is reborn... we would have to go with the high priced unproven talent.
I'm all for drafting a QB, i really want Leinart. Im just curious QBclassof83'K.Obrien you say we shouldn't draft a QB because we need to give Ramsey a chance, who do you want us to draft? if your answer is D'brick why should we draft him? why not give Adrian Jones a chance? he's done fine at LT after he switched from RT. If your not in favor of drafting D'brick, fine. I'm just curious
those are fair questions... my personal favorite player in the draft is Vince Young... I don't feel the team will draft him. I would draft Mario williams if he is available. If Williams is gone, and Ferguson is there, I would first try to move down. I do feel that Jones can be a left tackle.. I was just feeling that the FO might be expecting more from Ramsey than the fans and the media is.
I agree. I have a feeling it will be Ramsey for the bulk of the season. I just don't think Chad can make it. Having said that, if Chad doesn't make it I can assume he won't be there next year and Ramsey shouldn't be a long term option. I think he may do fine this year (all things considered) but if we have a chance to go after one of these top flight guys( Draft ) then we have to do it.
I personally have not been a fan of Ramsey. When I've watched him his decision making seems to be spotty and for a guy who supposedly has a good fastball and nice accuracy I saw a lot of bad passes. With that said I will still root for him when he wears the green and white and hope we catch lightning in a bottle. Now how does that affect what we do this year in the draft? It doesn't. If one of the big QBs grade out high by our staff and are sitting there at #4 then you make the pick. Remember Ramsey is not signed for next year. If he plays lights out then we re-sign him and based on the cap either sit the rookie another year or use him as a trade bait to acquire more picks. The same goes with Pennington. IMHO, the ability of Ramsey/Chad should have nothing to do with us selecting a QB IF the FO thinks one of these kids are possible stars.
I think Ramsey just needs some coaching up, he has good tools to be a solid pocket passer. His mobility is bad, but he has a cannon of an arm, and a fairly good attitude. He might need more of a mean streak allegedly, but I don't know how mean the best QBs in the league really are. I for one am rooting for Ramsey. I always thought he was just mis-utilized in Washington. The only thing is, why was Gibbs not able to get anything out of Ramsey? That might be a cause for concern. Well, Schotty worked okay with Brees who I think is garbage, so maybe he can make Ramsey into a top 5 QB. He needs some weapons to throw too though. I guess maybe Coles can rebound to be that weapon.
I'll say it again.... Ramsey did not get a legit chance in Washington. He played one year (quite well I might add), then Gibbs came in and immediately traded for Brunell. I believe Ramsey's going to give us the gutsy, consistent QB play we've been lacking the last few years. If nothing else, he can take a hit unlike Pennington.
Good argument... you are advocating doing what the chargers did.. although when they did it, I am sure they were looking for a QB to take over immediately. Had Rivers not held out...... I think you make a good point.. If one of these draft QB's are there and the team rates him higher than a player lower down the board, you can't go wrong drafting him now and keeping hime on ice for 2 to 3 years... It would just seem like a waste of all that cash though..
we dont have to play them right away. especially if we were to take young. he wuld be better of if he sat and learned the system/rework his mechanics for a year or two. It worked with carson palmer didnt it.
I personally think the Jets will ignore QB throughout the entire draft. If they do in fact do that, I think that signals that they are in fact giving Ramsey a shot. Even if they DO draft a QB, who knows, maybe Ramsey will still wind up being the man behind center.
I really don't think we're going to draft a QB this year. We wouldn't have gotten Ramsey if that was the plan.
i dontknow how effective it will be but ive been saying, start penny, if he has problems, put in ramsey and stick out the season. Then if ramsey doesnt work, get a qb next year
TE=MN_Jet_Fan]I'll say it again.... Ramsey did not get a legit chance in Washington. He played one year (quite well I might add), then Gibbs came in and immediately traded for Brunell. I believe Ramsey's going to give us the gutsy, consistent QB play we've been lacking the last few years. If nothing else, he can take a hit unlike Pennington.[/QUOTE] Agree...Ramsey definitely got a raw deal in Washington. The best game of his career was his first start ever against the Jets. He showed some guts that nite and showed he has a cannon for an arm. Then Joe Gibbs comes in and says Ramsey is the starter and then pulls him halfway thru the first game of the year. He got screwed by Gibbs and the skins! A new environment could be just what Ramsey needs to possibly thrive in this league. He's got the strong arm to make all the tough throws in the winds here. Biggest question I know of is his decision making. I hope the Jets give this guy a shot to show that he's got the goods.
