Herm Bowl...Chefs @ Jets Preview

Quick Take:
Chiefs (4-11) at Jets (3-12)

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Last meeting
The Chiefs nearly shutout the Jets in Week 1 of 2005. Running back Larry Johnson ran for 110 yards and two touchdowns to lead the Chiefs to a 27-7 victory.

Streaks
The Chiefs have won the past two matchups, leading the overall series 16-14-1.



Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe leads all rookies with 982 receiving yards.

Last week
Chiefs quarterback Damon Huard nearly brought his team all the way back from a 19-0 deficit, but Kansas City eventually came up short, losing 25-20 to the host Lions. ... The Jets only managed six points and 68 rushing yards in a 10-6 loss to the host Titans.

At stake
The Chiefs and Jets have both been eliminated from playoff contention.

Key matchup
Jerricho Cotchery vs. Chiefs pass defense. Cotchery leads the Jets in receptions (74) and yards (1,054) and has gone over 100 yards twice in his past three games. The Chiefs' sixth-ranked pass defense has not allowed a 100-yard receiver the past two weeks.

Did you know?
Herm Edwards faces the team he formerly coached for the first time since leaving for the Chiefs in 2006. ... Jets running back Thomas went over 1,000 yards rushing for the third consecutive season.


Kansas City Chiefs
PROBABLE
QB Brodie Croyle (hand), OT Damion McIntosh (ankle)
QUESTIONABLE
LB Donnie Edwards (hamstring), LB Napoleon Harris (knee)
OUT
WR Eddie Kennison (ribs)
INJURED RESERVE
QB Tyler Thigpen (knee), C Rudy Niswanger (knee), LB Johnny Baldwin (knee)


New York Jets
PROBABLE
WR Jerricho Cotchery (finger), WR Justin McCareins (thigh)
QUESTIONABLE
QB Kellen Clemens (ribs), WR Brad Smith (back), TE Chris Baker (back), TE James Dearth (foot), OG Brandon Moore (neck), C Nick Mangold (personal), DL Shaun Ellis (shoulder), DL Dewayne Robertson (knee)
INJURED RESERVE
FB Stacy Tutt (knee), WR Laveranues Coles (ankle), WR Chansi Stuckey (knee), LB Jonathan Vilma (knee), CB Justin Miller (knee)

 

Edwards brings free-falling Chiefs to face struggling former team

It took heavy negotiating for the Kansas City Chiefs to secure Herman Edwards' rights from the New York Jets with a fourth-round draft pick. These teams didn't expect to be jostling for position near the top of next April's draft.



Jets WR Jerricho Cotchery had his best game of the season last week, recording 152 yards and a touchdown against the Titans.

Edwards will face the Jets for the first time since being pried away by the Chiefs when the teams conclude their disappointing seasons at the Meadowlands on Sunday.

When Dick Vermeil retired following the 2005 season, Kansas City wanted Edwards to be his successor and ultimately had to part with a draft pick after more than a week of intense haggling. Edwards was still under contract with New York, and had just finished his fifth season there with a 4-12 record.

The Jets were looking for a change and allowed Edwards to leave, then went to the playoffs the following season with a 10-6 record under first-year coach Eric Mangini. Edwards also went 10-6 with a postseason berth in his first season with the Chiefs.

Kansas City (4-11) and New York (3-12), however, have suffered major setbacks. They are two of three teams that qualified for the 2006 playoffs but have posted double-digit losses in 2007. Baltimore is 4-11 after going 13-3 in 2006.

Edwards' tough final season with the Jets gave Mangini the benefit of having the fourth overall pick in the 2006 draft in his first offseason as a head coach. Now, Mangini and New York will likely have one of the first five selections in the draft again.

The Chiefs, who have lost eight straight for the first time since a nine-game skid in 1987, also will have a top pick. This is Kansas City's worst season since Carl Peterson arrived as president and general manager in 1989.


"We've had some opportunities," Edwards said. "We've had them every week, but we just can't get it done."

The Chiefs have struggled without Larry Johnson (foot) over the last seven games, and Edwards confirmed Monday that the star running back would not play in the season finale. The two-time Pro Bowler tried to return to practice last week, but apparently suffered a setback.

Edwards also said quarterback Brodie Croyle is questionable for Sunday's game. The second-year pro, who has been disappointing in five starts, bruised his hand in a 25-20 loss to Detroit last Sunday.

Damon Huard will start if Croyle can't play.

"I'm hoping he can play this week," Edwards said. "Another week of him playing will help him and help us to evaluate. He's a guy we like - a guy who we think has some talent. We just have to wait and see."

In 2002, Edwards likely saved the Jets' season by giving Chad Pennington a chance to run the offense. Pennington made his first career start in a 29-22 loss to Kansas City on Oct. 6, 2002, but led New York to eight wins in its final 11 games en route to winning the AFC East.

Two shoulder surgeries and two offensive coordinators later, Pennington has been relegated to the bench in favor of 24-year-old Kellen Clemens.

Pennington, though, has taken most of the snaps over the past two weeks after Clemens injured his ribs and possibly his left shoulder in a 20-10 loss to New England on Dec. 16. Pennington was 26-of-32 for 264 yards while starting for Clemens against Tennessee last Sunday, but was constantly pressured and threw two costly interceptions in a 10-6 loss.

Clemens' status for Sunday is uncertain.

"You'd like to see him be able to play if he can play, but the important thing is that he's able to play at a level that gives us the best chance to win," Mangini said. "That's what I'm going to gauge throughout the course of the week."

With unsteady play at quarterback and a porous offensive line, the Jets are averaging 17.0 points per game to rank 24th in the league. The Chiefs, meanwhile, have gotten steady play from their defense during what has been an otherwise dismal season.

Kansas City is 13th in the NFL in total defense, allowing 318.3 yards per game. The Chiefs haven't finished in the top 15 in that category since ranking 14th in 1999 (314.9 ypg). They also rank sixth in pass defense, allowing 192.3 yards a contest.


New York, meanwhile, has been able to improve on defense over the second half of the season. The Jets have given up an average of 15.7 points over their last four games.

Mangini, hired by the Jets after serving as New England's defensive coordinator under Bill Belichick, has had mixed results employing a 3-4 scheme with New York after the team was built to play a 4-3 alignment under Edwards.

"I didn't really look at it in terms of his stamp," Mangini said of the transition from Edwards' defensive philosophy. "I looked at it in terms of the things that we were trying to do and how we were trying to move forward."

This will be the first meeting between Kansas City and New York since Sept. 11, 2005, when the Chiefs won 27-7. These teams will also play at the Meadowlands next season, but the date has not yet been announced.

 

We're reading the same stuff and having the same reactions..How much do you think Hermy wants our boy Chad? 3rd/4th???

 

Parallel misery

The Jets can?t score, the Chiefs can?t score.

The Jets can?t stop the run, the Chiefs can?t stop the run.

The Jets have an inexperienced quarterback coming off an injury, the Chiefs have an inexperienced quarterback coming off an injury.

Eric Mangini is 13-18 in two seasons with the Jets, Herm Edwards is 13-18 in two seasons with the Chiefs.

Are these two teams identical or what?

This is what it comes down to: Two horrible teams, booted out of a scheduled prime-time game, playing before an empty stadium in the season finale.

Maybe the hooligans at Gate D can liven up things by taking their halftime debauchery to the field. :drunk:

Okay, let?s get serious.

This game is semi-important to the Jets for one reason and one reason only: Kellen Clemens. If he can go out with a big game - his first big game - it would allow the front office to feel a lot better in the offseason about their quarterback situation.
It will have to be some game by him. Nice to see they still have doubts about him :sarcasm:

The Chiefs, losers of eight straight, won?t be a total pushover. They have a great pass rusher (Jared Allen) and a pair of wise, old corners (Ty Law and Patrick Surtain). The Chiefs? defense is very good on third down (ranked No. 2 in the NFL) and very good in the red zone (ranked No. 1), two problem areas for the Jets.

That said, I think Clemens will make enough plays to win. Chiefs QB Brodie Croyle (hand) will have problems against the Jets? improved defense, and I don?t see the Chiefs scoring more than 14 points.

This will be an ugly, low-scoring game, same as last week?s Jets-Titans game. This time, the Jets find a way to win against the Hermanator.

Prediction: Jets 17, Chiefs 13.

Of course, a win would hurt the Jets - draft position, dropping them possibly to seventh.

That would be typical.
But not unprobable

 

For the first time this year , no one thinks we are going to lose :lol:

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