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  1. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    2019 NFL Roster Bubble: Biggest Names Who Could Be Cut
    CHRIS ROLINGAUGUST 18, 2019


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    At this point, nothing would surprise NFL fans—even when it comes to the roster bubble.

    This NFL offseason has given the NBA a run for its money in the drama department. The Odell Beckham Jr. trade, Antonio Brown's latest drama (his feet or helmet—dealer's choice) and plenty more have desensitized onlookers to shock. The roster bubble has been active too; the Detroit Lions cut Theo Riddick, and the Cleveland Browns traded Duke Johnson, to name a few examples.

    When cuts start to roll in and bubble players start receiving walking papers, it shouldn't be surprising to see massive names released. This applies to veterans and busts, with numerous valid reasons for the moves, financial or otherwise.

    These are the biggest names who could be cut in the coming weeks.

    LeSean McCoy, RB, Buffalo Bills


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    LeSean McCoy is bound to be a staple on lists like this.

    McCoy, after all, is 31 with a cap hit north of $9 million in 2019. The Buffalo Bills added Frank Gore in free agency, so there seems to only be room for one 30-plus back to work within the base offense. They also drafted Devin Singletary in the third round.

    But it goes deeper than that. McCoy averaged a career-low 3.2 yards per carry last season, getting just 514 yards and three scores. Plenty of blame can fall on outside factors, like the offensive line in front of him, but McCoy appeared to be showing his age.

    Maybe the Bills don't see a reason to cut a veteran like McCoy, but based on performance and financials, he's a candidate.

    Laquon Treadwell, WR, Minnesota Vikings

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    Laquon Treadwell classifies as a big name, though perhaps for the wrong reasons.

    The Minnesota Vikings made Treadwell the 23rd pick in the 2016 draft, and he's caught 56 passes for 517 yards and one score in three seasons, averaging a paltry 9.2 yards per catch. He had problems staying on the field as a rookie (nine games) and has issues creating separation. Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen easily rank higher in the pecking order when Kirk Cousins drops back.

    Now, Treadwell might be lucky if he's even the third guy Cousins looks at. According to The MMQB's Albert Breer, the Vikings are open to moving him.

    Of course, that's a big sign to any team that might have interest in Treadwell that it won't have to cough up assets to acquire him, as he's a likely candidate to be released.

    Sean Lee, LB, Dallas Cowboys
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    A 33-year-old linebacker who has problems staying on the field is bound to pop up as a cut candidate.

    That's true even for as big a name as the Dallas Cowboys' Sean Lee, who only made it through seven games last year and as of late July was already battling an injury. It doesn't sound serious, but Lee has played in 11 games or fewer in four of his last six seasons, and Father Time isn't on his side.

    The Cowboys tried to get out in front of this by restructuring Lee's contractin March. But at some point, the "leader" tag only goes so far, and it is costly both in a financial sense and in keeping up-and-coming talent from making the final roster.

    Maybe Lee's latest issue indeed has a quick turnaround, but the fact that it's even happening makes him a name to watch as cut days approach.

    A.J. Bouye, CB, Jacksonville Jaguars
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    The Jacksonville Jaguars are paying A.J. Bouye to be a top-flight corner.

    Bouye got a $67.5 million contract from the Jaguars in 2017 and picked off six passes that season.

    But in 2018, Bouye missed three games, picked off just one pass and allowed 41 catches on 61 targets with an overall grade of 75.7 at Pro Football Focus. For a cap hit of more than $15 million in 2018, one could argue that wasn't good enough.

    Keep in mind the greater context too. The Jaguars only have about $16 million in cap space and need to work out an extension with Jalen Ramsey, who is better than Bouye and three years younger.

    Josh Norman, CB, Washington Redskins
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    Josh Norman's situation contains a volatile mix of age (31), money ($14.3 million cap hit in 2019) and a team perhaps ready to blow it all up (Washington Redskins).

    Norman isn't necessarily over the hill, to use a cliche, but he had a sub-70.0 grade at PFF last year while getting targeted 73 times. That speaks to how comfortable teams were throwing his way as opposed to in his elite days in Carolina.

    Norman also hasn't had the best year from a headline perspective. He called out home fans in November, and he seemingly took a huge risk this summer by jumping over a bull.

    Remember, Washington doesn't hesitate to cut players, like it did last year with D.J. Swearinger after he spoke out. It is also starting over at quarterback and has the Trent Williams holdout to deal with, so there is always a chance the team punches the reset button.

    Delanie Walker, TE, Tennessee Titans
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    Delanie Walker inked a $17 million contract extension with the Tennessee Titans in 2018 and proceeded to miss 15 games with a broken ankle.

    That wouldn't have such a big impact on his outlook if he wasn't 35 years old. He had to watch as younger guys like Jonnu Smith (2017 third-round pick) and MyCole Pruitt (2015 fifth-rounder) showed signs of emerging, even with the passing game grounded while Marcus Mariota struggled again.

    The Titans could opt to go with a youth movement. Those younger tight ends, a stable of running backs, wide receiver Corey Davis, free-agent arrival Adam Humphries and rookie A.J. Brown could make up the core around Mariota. Walker looks like he may be expendable on cut day.

    Richie Incognito, OL, Oakland Raiders
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    The Oakland Raiders turned some heads when they added Richie Incognito to a mix already featuring personalities like Antonio Brown and Vontaze Burfict, seemingly completing the thirst for Hard Knocksentertainment.

    Incognito could help the offensive line, but he's starting the season suspended for the first two games as it is. Money isn't a factor with a cap hit under $600,000, but he's also 36 years old and hasn't played a regular-season snap since 2017.

    Those familiar with the Raiders don't expect his stint with the first team to last long. As reporter Michael Gehlken wrote: "Raiders C/G Jordan Devey working at first-team right guard. Richie Incognito still seeing reps at first-team LG, but that should change soon enough. Jonathan Cooper will be elevated to prepare for Incognito's two-game suspension."

    Given the issues that surround Incognito, if he isn't winning a starting job outright, the Raiders could easily shore up guard depth once other teams start cutting players. Jonathan Cooper or another name getting reps to finish out the preseason could end up outperforming him, making it easier to cut ties.

    Karl Joseph, S, Oakland Raiders
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    Safety Karl Joseph has seemingly been on the hot seat since Jon Gruden returned to the Oakland Raiders in 2018.

    Joseph, a top-15 pick in 2016, watched as the Raiders added Lamarcus Joyner and then spent one of their first-round picks on Johnathan Abram.

    That could leave Joseph out in the cold as far as starting, and Oakland has declined his fifth-year option for 2020.

    While Joseph hasn't been bad for the Raiders, he's also dealt with nagging injuries (eight missed games over three seasons) and hasn't met expectations that came with his draft slot. If he loses the box-safety battle with Abram, the staff might decide to end his Oakland tenure early.
     
  2. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    I'd be shocked if Bouye was cut loose, but he'd be at the top of my list.
     
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    Uh, yea. Is this just speculation or is there smoke here? I’d be all over that.
     
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    Bouye's the only guy on the list I want. Norman's also a CB, but we don't need the headache. Though having him against OBJ in Week 2 would be fun.
     
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    Bring in either of the corners !
     
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  6. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Bills released ej Gaines with an injury settlement. Although it sounds like tru is being targeted for a week 1 return
     
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    Whether Tru comes back or not shouldn't matter; we need him and another halfway-decent corner. That and a kicker, and we should be good enough.
     
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    Gaines is only owed 1.5 mil this season. If he has ANY chance of being healthy this year we must claim him on waivers
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    No waivers he is clear to sign when he can pass a physical
     
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    Tru is coming up on 30 at a position that requires frequent bursts of speed and change of direction, and he struggled with soft tissue injuries last year as well. Even if we can him back for week 1, it’s naive to expect him to play 16 games.
     
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    Our need for a top CB, in my opinion, is independent of Tru health status. We are dangerously porous with him there and easy target if he is not 100%. Short of giving up a top draft pick, we should go all out for the best available CB, and at least one more to upgrade our back ups. Then again, I have zero technical knowledge of the gravity of the situation and what best fits GW schemes.
     
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    can someone please list a few teams that did well without shutdown corners (due to other strengths on the team? Or do teams MUST have at least ONE shutdown corner to even compete?

    Give me some hope here folks! DOIT!
     
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    My humble opinion worth zero- not being rude to you at all......



    “Shutdown corner” is nothing without a real team.

    We had one, who allegedly was an all time great..... zero SB’s


    The Pats definitely did not have one for each and every SB win (off the top of my head). I also don’t remember a “shut down corner” from the 49ers run? The safety was great but......

    This is why lately I hate sports analysis in general.


    Too many acronyms and analogies and easy pre-packaged answers......I think it’s more about smart, deep, flexible, selfless, well coached, overall talent that can expertly gameplan and adjust every week.

    Even that last paragraph is a ridiculous over simplification and I apologize.
     
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    The first Pats dynasty had a Hall of Fame corner in Ty Law and a Pro Bowler in Asante Samuel. The later Pats championship teams had Revis, Malcolm Butler, and Stephon Gilmore. And if the 49ers safety you're referring to is Hall of Famer Ronnie Lott, he also played corner. Plus they had a Pro Bowl corner in Eric Wright.
     
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    Gilmore came over from the Bills tho correct? Butler was a no name, he Rose from the depths of that roster throughout the year, which is what you hope one of these guys can do here.
     
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    It'd be so stupid for Buffalo to cut McCoy.

    The guy can still play.

    He's the classic example of a star player that gets cut then goes to New England and extends his career another two-three seasons. He'd fit in perfect!y with their new more run oriented offensive play style.

    He'd be one of the more dangerous backs they've had there during the Belichick-Brady era.
     
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    Im assuming there is some reasoning behind the names listed. I mean otherwise they might as well just name names and is kind of meaningless. Plus I've read about quite a few on this list being possible cuts.

    Maybe JD should look into another trade before he hits waivers
     
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    He's 31 and gets $9 mil.

    Missed time and averaged 4.0 two back and then 3.2 per a year ago

    I hope he goes to NE and become Ocho, Hainsworth, Harris the countless misses we forget about who sign with NE. Never mind there is no need to him in NE
     
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    I wish every time we miss like that it ends in a Super Bowl appearance.:p
     
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    And you think he'd get $9 million from NE? No they'd sign him to a cheap contract.

    He's a stud. He can run it, catch it, explosive.

    Leave it to the dumb@ss Bills to cut McCoy/let NE have him just because they have ANCIENT, OLD compiler Frank Gore.

    No wonder the Pats are in the SB seemingly every year these teams are frickin' stupid.
     

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