Hasty's second attempt at the Jets 2007 offseason

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  1. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    While I think that Mangini's first season with the Jets exceeded expectations, I think that with a strong offseason this year that our team can go much further.

    While there are some very flashy free agents this year (Freeney, Clements, Samuels, etc.), I think that there is a very strong class in this year's draft that can solve most of our problems. That being said, it is my belief that we should aggressively pursue (overpay) the following free agents:

    Leonard Davis RT Arizona Cardinals 6'6" 365 lbs 28 Years Old
    Terdell Sands DT Oakland Raiders 6'7" 335 lbs 27 Years Old
    Ken Hamlin FS Seattle Seahawks 6'2" 209 lbs 26 Years Old (next week)
    Eric Johnson TE San Francisco 49ers 6'3" 252 lbs 27 Years Old

    I think that Jonathan Vilma is an outstanding linebacker that does not fit our system. As he is much better suited to a 4-3 scheme (that we will not be running), I believe that the Jets and Vilma would both be better off if we can trade him to a team that runs a 4-3 and could use a big upgrade at MLB. The best fits that I could find were Carolina, San Francisco, and Philadelphia. Aside from getting fair value for Vilma (a low first rounder), my other goals in a trade would be to get a high pick in next year's draft, move up in each round in day one of this year's draft, and to obtain a fourth round pick.

    In round one, my priority is to get ahead of Dallas. Carolina with pick # 14 makes the most sense here. As their pick is a bit too high, I would include a third team (the Giants) to get better value at pick # 20. I think that the following trade is fair to all three teams and that the players drafted make all three teams more competative as well. I have included the players to be drafted by each team to help demonstrate the incentive for each team to make the trade.

    Giants get pick # 14 (Panthers 1st Rounder) Marcus McCauley CB
    Giants get pick # 89 (Jets 3rd Rounder) Tony Taylor LB

    Giants give Pick # 20 (1st Rounder) to Jets Justin Blaylock OG / OT
    Giants give pick # 84 (3rd Rounder) to Jets Matt Spaeth TE
    Giants give pick # 116 (4th Rounder) to Jets Gary Russell RB

    Panthers get Jonathan Vilma (Jets) Jonathan Vilma LB
    Panthers get pick # 25 (Jets 1st Rounder) Troy Smith QB
    Panthers get pick # 57 (Jets 2nd Rounder) Earl Everett LB
    Panthers get Jets 2008 2nd Rounder ??? ???

    Panthers give pick # 14 (1st Rounder) to Giants Marcus McCauley CB
    Panthers give pick # 46 (2nd Rounder) to Jets Brandon Meriweather CB
    Panthers give pick # 78 (3rd Rounder) to Jets Paul Williams WR
    Panthers give 2008 1st Rounder to Jets ??? ???

    Jets get pick # 20 (Giants 1st Rounder) Justin Blaylock OG / OT
    Jets get pick # 46 (Panthers 2nd Rounder) Brandon Meriweather S / CB
    Jets get pick # 78 (Panthers 3rd Rounder) Paul Williams WR
    Jets get pick # 84 (Giants 3rd Rounder) Matt Spaeth TE
    Jets get pick # 116 (Giants 4th Rounder) Gary Russell RB
    Jets get Panthers 2008 1st Rounder ??? ???

    Jets give Jonathan Vilma to Panthers Jonathan Vilma LB
    Jets give Pick # 25 (1st Rounder) to Panthers Troy Smith QB
    Jets give pick # 57 (2nd Rounder) to Panthers Earl Everett LB
    Jets give pick # 89 (3rd Rounder) to Giants Tony Taylor LB
    Jets give Jets 2008 2nd Rounder to Panthers ??? ???

    Here are the first four rounds of the 2007 draft for the Jets (after the trade):

    20 Justin Blalock OG Texas
    36 Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame
    46 Brandon Meriweather CB Miami (FL)
    78 Paul Williams WR Fresno St.
    84 Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota
    116 Gary Russell RB Minnesota

    By moving ahead of the Cowboys, the Jets are able to bolster their rushing attach by get a dominating guard that can also play tackle if necessary.

    The Redskins 2nd rounder obtained last year gets the Jets the pass rushing linebacker they despertely need.

    Swapping picks with the Panthers in round two allows the Jets to select a defensive back with first round talent (and some off the field problems).

    Swapping picks with the Panthers in round three brings a big WR with speed.

    The third and fourth round picks obtained from the Giants allow the Jets to add two Golden Gophers to improve our offense at the RB and TE positions.

    The Giants are able to patch up their secondary with Marcus McCauley on the cheap (4th rounder and trade picks with the Jets in round 3).

    The Carolina Panthers fill their two biggest needs at MLB and QB with Jonathan Vilma (pro bowler) and Troy Smith (Heisman winner). They also gain additional linebacking help with Earl Everett using the Jets second round pick. While they gave up thier third rounder and swapped a first rounder for a second rounder in 2008, they get to fill their needs (with outstanding players) without having to reach at pick # 14.

    If the Jets acquire all four free agent targets and the draft happens as I have described, here is the bulk of our roster next year:

    QB Chad Pennington / Kellen Clemens / Ramsey (or other)
    RB Gary Russell / Leon Washington / Cederic Houston
    FB BJ Askew / James Hodgkins / Stacey Tutt
    TE Eric Johnson / Chris Baker / Matt Spaeth / Jame Dearth
    WR Laverneous Coles / Jericho Cotchery / Brad Smith / Paul Williams / etc
    LT D'Brickshaw Fergeson
    LG Pete Kendall / Brandon Moore
    C Nick Mangold
    RG Justin Blaylock
    RT Leonard Davis / Justin Blaylock

    RDE Sean Ellis / Dave Ball
    NT Terdell Sands / CJ Mosely / Sione Pouha
    LDE Dwayne Robertson
    LOLB Bryan Thomas
    LILB Eric Barton
    RILB Victor Hobson / Anthony Schlagel
    ROLB Victor Abiamiri / Cody Spencer
    LCB Andre Dyson / Hank Poteat / Drew Coleman
    RCB Brandon Meriweather / Justin Miller
    SS Kerry Rhodes / Rashad Washington
    FS Ken Hamlin / Eric Coleman / Eric Smith
    P Shane Graham
    K Mike Nugent

    Cuts
    Justin McCarrens
    Wade Smith
    Adrian Jones
    David Barrett
    Bobby Hamilton
    Kimo Von Olhofen
    Derrick Blaylock
    Kevan Barlow

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. FITM

    FITM 2006 TGG.com Best Photoshop Artist Award Winner

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    You have got to be fucking kidding me.
     
  3. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    I am waiting and excited for your third attempt. :)
     
  4. 1028

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    Your draft is good James, but I think we should try to trade Kellen Clemens for Kerry Rhodes
     
  5. BIG COUNTRY

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    Holy crap, is this the NBA?
     
  6. Pride

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    Troy Smith is not a first rounder he's a 4th rounder n ummmmmm.....WOW
     
  7. FITM

    FITM 2006 TGG.com Best Photoshop Artist Award Winner

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    This is a prime example of where people shouldn't look at post counts to determine one's knowledge.
     
  8. ANJI

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    LOL, ya'll cold as Ice!!!!!!!!

    the thing about Vilma is you saw Ray Lewis complain to the Ravens FO about having DT's that don't do there job and eat up Offensive Linemen and let him do his job. Now if the greatest LineBacker of my generation can perform when he has to take on Guards, then I can't say anything about Vilma when he doesn't have a NT in front of him or two real OLB's.


    I do totally agree about picking up Tightend Johnson completely though.....
     
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  9. penny10jet

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    wow...i think we should change our team name from the Jets too. I was thinking the Squids. Well, its just as likely as Hasty's scenario
     
  10. YoungJet

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    um...wow, you can't even pull those trades in Madden, let alone in the NFL. On top of that, while your draft and signings look good on paper, I really can't see us signing Leonard Davis do to a lack of conditioning, drafting Brandon Meriweather due to his on and off the field issues, drafting Paul Williams due to a lack of college production, or drafting Gary Russell due to his issues.
     
  11. UncleTomNYJ

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    HAHHA Okay where is the real second attempt??
    All kidding aside, Even though you obviosly thought this one through i think you thought to much. 95% of this would never happen.
     
  12. MSUJet85

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    Well I am very glad that I can guarantee that you will be wrong, because I would be absolutely furious if we did that crap
     
  13. Vilmathegreat51

    Vilmathegreat51 New Member

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    I'm sorry man but that's just not realistic.I can see you put a lot of effort in it though so, good job.
     
  14. Bomber

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    I agree: great effort. Must have taken some time: those having a chip at Hasty should have a go themselves before they shoot down something that must have taken some time to do.
     
  15. UncleTomNYJ

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    Two things that i do agree on are: The signing of Terrel Sands and the signing of Eric Johnson. Proven for them most part in the nfl is that for a nose tackle to be effective is that he needs to be a big load. Terrell is a load and would be a good signing.

    Eric Johnson is a solid pass catching TE. I was actually a little suprised that the 49ers drafted Vernon Davis last year. I think he would be a great signing and relatively cheap at that.
     
  16. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Keep in mind that although three teams are involved, I only made one trade in this mock offseason.

    People seem to forget that the Jets traded Rob Moore, Keyshwan johnson, let Coles get signed away, took Curtis Martin from the Patriots, gave draft picks as penalty for stealing Parcells, traded Bellicheck to the Patriots, traded John Abraham (LAST YEAR!).

    Also, we drafted Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp, made Rich Kotite our head coach, made Mangini the youngerst coach in the league (LAST YEAR!), and had a whopping four first round draft picks in 2000.

    You can say a lot of things about the Jets but saying that you know what to expect from them; To say that Vilma being traded (by his own admission, he did not have a good year) is unrealistic just shows that you are ignoring Jets history.

    I named four free agent targets and I sure hope we get at least one of them.

    As for the mock draft, I think that there is a good chance that we will draft one or two of those players. I sure would like to see it happen.
     
  17. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Again, it was only one trade. I could have said trade Vilma to the Eagles for thier first rounder but it really didn't fit what I wanted to do with the draft. Also, I think that Carolina would be the best fit if we did trade Vilma.

    I am glad that you pointed out the specific issues with the players that I selected though. Brandon Merriweather and Gary Russell are extremely talented players that present an outstanding value in the draft if a team and coach are willing to deal with their past issuses and can straighten them out. I am very excited about both players. Leonard Davis would lose 15 to 20 pounds easily in Mangini's training camp. The trick is signing him up when he knows that Mangini will run a tough camp.

    Paul Williams is a major project, no doubt about that. His size and speed are outstanding though. I hope we roll the dice on him.
     
  18. illmatic

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    Sorry I can't agree with this offseason - one mans opinion
     
  19. F Miami

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    My head hurts.
     
  20. Chad10

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    that might be the worst offseason thread i have ever seen, the JETS ARE NOT TRADING JONATHAN VILMA GUYS........he will adjust to the system and will be an animal next year, just because he didnt pour on numbers like in his first 2 years doesnt mean somethings wrong, Urlacher doesnt pour on stats like int and sacks
     

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