In response to Chien-Ming Wang's injury while running the bases in an interleague game... :rofl::rofl::rofl:
yes what a fucking cry baby, pitchers should hit, the dh is for pussies, and he says its a rule from the 1800's, he doesnt even know the dh didnt start till 1970 or 72
Sometimes he says stupid sh*t out of anger but he's easily the most entertaining baseball executive around hahahha.
no offense, but the NL with their pitchers batting is some real boring baseball. Lets all watch a batter who we know can't hit to save his life. What an idea.... on the other hand, its what NL baseball is, so im not asking to change it. What Hank said is pretty hilarious though...:rofl:
I'm sure he knows it (his team was the first to use it), but what does that have to do with his comment? The original rule was created in the 1800's. It's a shame he has to use this injury to address it because it makes him look like he's lashing out and over-reacting because of this incident, but he's really 100% right. The fact that the pitchers still hit in one league is so dumb. It's incredibly boring and makes it too easy for the pitcher that's pitching.
I agree. maybe every fielding position can have a separate hitter as well. why should you have to endure, say, a great defensive short stop that can't hit? DH for him as well! perhaps there should just be two completely separate squads, offense and defense. that would make the game even more exciting! pitchers hitting isn't an outdated rule...it's baseball! you have 9 guys, each plays the field and each goes to bat. a pitcher that can't hit isn't any different than a fielder that can't hit but is great defensively.
I guess it depends what you're used to watching. I think there are pros and cons to both having a DH and not having DH. Sure watching the 8 hitter intentionally walked in the 2nd inning sucks but as you get later into games it adds layers of strategy where you have to weigh wether or not to let a pitcher hit, etc. It also probably makes the bench more important. I think there was an argument to be made here, but I would've went with the fact that interleague play sucks, creates unbalanced schedules and so on before berating the other league to change their rules.
Sure. I mean, one hits and runs every single day before and during a game and is obviously a top athlete by playing great defense at such a premium position. The other does none of those things. They have so much in common. If you can't see the difference between a pitcher that can't hit and a shortstop that can't hit, I don't know what to say. Even if you agree with the NL rule, it's obvious how different the two are. It's the entire reason for this thread being started.
it is your contention that pitchers aren't great athletes? that's a terrible argument. short stops are generally more nimble than first baseman but not as powerful at the plate, should a team be allowed to DH for fielders whose positions require a different level of athleticism that may limit their offensive effectiveness? if your argument is since pitchers only play every few days so they shouldn't have to hit, what about bench players who only play every few days? they are generally easy outs as well, which would make boring baseball, doesn't it? they face the same situation, so when a starter has a day off should the team be allowed to put a bench player in the field who doesn't hit well, and then DH for him? the criteria you are using doesn't hold up to scrutiny because it is present in baseball in non-pitchers as well.
Not quite the entire reason for this thread is a silly money grab that Selig thought up, not because the AL decided to chance its rules over 30 years ago.
It adds strategy, but not as much as it used to. The game has become so specialized with pitch counts and middle relief, even in the National League, that those decisions are easier to make than they used to be. If it's a 1-1 game in the 8th inning with a RISP and the pitcher is up, years ago that was a tough decision. Now, it's pretty easy.
The Wang injury could have just as easily happened while he was running to cover first on a grounder. It has nothing to do with not having a DH. Hank is just being a big blowhard, as usual.
No, but I think a SS that's a great athlete is probably going to run the bases better than a pitcher who's a great athlete. No, because they're also developed as hitters and hit before and during the game every day. Again, it's a different situation. A player on the bench is someone who was an everyday player in school and (mostly) in the minors. And even on days they don't play, they still take batting practice. Even in the NL, a pitcher isn't taking batting practice and running the bases on their day off, and usually aren't doing it even when they pitch (before and even during). The argument that if you can have a DH for a pitcher, you can for a defensive position player who hits as poorly doesn't work. That position knows how to hit, he's just not very good at it. They know how to run and hit properly because they work at it every day. A pitcher is so engulfed in pitching, even NL pitchers, they never have time to put in any work at hitting or running the bases. I don't mind watching a bad hitting SS, but watching so many pitchers get up, swing at anything and embarrass themselves is tiring.
players only doing one thing is gay, pitchers not hitting and dh guys not playing the field is stupid, thats NOT baseball, in little league do the pitchers hit? yes, because thats baseball, if they thought the dh is so great then why dont little leagues do it? can you imagine in the nfl, if the nfc could go for two but the afc couldnt? that would be gay, just like the dh, quit bitching hank, thats baseball
how are you not used to these type of comments that are served up on the regular by Hank and by George before him?
