Ground and pound not compatable with Jet-D

Is it really about sacks?? Or pressuring QB? We have number rated defense in the league I dont think we should worry about sacks right now.

I also would believe it is the goal of every team in the league to play from in front. It makes other team one dimensional. Its not just our defense it helps it helps all defenses.

 

In our last 2 games we've had 9 sacks, 2 INTs, and 3 FFs....the turnovers came from pressue and I think we'd all prefer a pick to a sack. I think it is coming around....

We do need to blitz more on first and second down IMO...mix it up, like 40% blitz on early downs. Or use those "smoke" blitzes and other means of disguising the rush so that we get pressue with like 4 guys....it worked early on...but we seem to have gotten away from it once Lito went down...rightfully so because Lowery was awful.

1 more thing...let Kerry blitz more. He showed he had a knack for it under Mangini....we need to get him off the edge with an LB or DE leading the rush so that he's up against a RB at most and not a tackle.

 

Once you offense has the ball, it does not matter if you score fast via the air, or score slow via the ground and pound. the key is to score and put the pressure on the opposing offense to match it. If you score touchdowns on your first 2 drives with this defense, you will win most of your games.

Our problem is that without turnovers and a short field early in games, we have not come out of the gate and scored on early possessions. If it is 14-3 in the first qtr or the second does not really matter. Its about maximizing opportunites.

 

We have one of the best Ds in the League. Year One of King Rex and we already have a great D. Lets not worry about sacks. Our biggest problem is turnovers, penalties and stupid play calling.

 

That?s it.

It doesn?t matter how you score, as long as you finish off drives.

It?s actually better for the defense if it takes the offense 8 minutes to score a TD, as opposed to a 2 minute quick strike. They get plenty of rest and won?t be gassed in the 4th.

The optimum situation is to put your offense in a lot of 3rd and 1-2. Convert.

The key to the passing game is convert the 3rd and 5?s and make good throws in the red zone where it is harder to run because of the short field .

Penalties kill a team like the Jets. It?s hasn?t been mentioned much, but one of the main reasons the Jets lost the first Miami game was 14 penalties. Can?t win a game as a ground and pound team with 14 penalties.

 

Great post. Not much more to add after taht one.

 

I don't care if they get no sacks all year, as long as they win.

I mean we did sack Brady once but hurried the shit out of him and held him to 216 yards and 1 pick.

 

Yup .........

 

This is a case of people wanting the "shock and awe plays" over the ones that simply and boringly gets the job done. It's akin to bitching about Curtis Martin not breaking off a TD run for over 30 yards when he's the league's leading rusher. We should be happy with the defense's progress this season, especially missing the big guy as we have been. Next year we can only get better.. the sacks will come in time. Don't rush it.

 

Yup.

Paul Hackett is an underappreciated mastermind.

 

Scoring early and often is great for the game state if you can do it. It's not great for the defense though because it brings them back on the field too quickly before they can get the blow they need. Particularly if the other team is throwing a lot and the linemen have to go hell bent for leather on the pass rush 75% of the downs.

What's great for the defense, although not so great for the game state in a lot of cases, is for the offense to grind out a lot of long drives. That keeps the defensive line fresh and they can go all out every down when they're on the field.

 

I generally agree with this point. The sacks will come, and a pressured pass is almost as good, sometimes better if it leads to an int.

I do wish the Jets threw down the field more, though, to make the opposing D play a bit more on their heels.

 

This is asking for Sanchez to throw enough interceptions for it to become a major issue in his ability to become the franchise QB we need.

Just look at Eli Manning, who is a better downfield passer than Sanchez, for where that leads. He lead his team to a Super Bowl win and half the Giant's fans still can't get over the fact that he was pick boy early in his career.

Fan reaction and input gets too much credit usually for what the team does on the field. The one place that is not true is in how they react to the QB. When the fans decide the QB is a problem then it is a huge problem for the entire organization. Smart organizations don't ever let things get to that stage. Just look at how the Steelers brought along Roethlisberger and the Ravens brought along Flacco. They restricted throws, particularly downfield, and just pounded the ball down the other team's throat on the ground until things opened up in the passing game.

This 8 man in the box crap is just that, crap. This Jets team could run the ball with 10 men in the box if they were committed to that. They have 4 blockers who can run block as a unit as well as any 4 in the league and D'Brick holds his own. Every time the Jets have lined up in that strong formation with the extra guard, 2 tightends, Richardson and Jones they have made positive yardage. They keep doing this inside the 10 for ONE play and then they go away from it and have Sanchez throw the ball. That's why the offense keeps stalling out down low. When you have a mobile QB who can run the ball in and you put the big guys out there with him it just completely screws the defense down low.

 

If you can run the ball consistently and be one of the best running teams in the league, that's compatible with any defense. Every defense likes to be on the sidelines: that means they're getting rested and the other team (usually) isn't scoring.

Of course it's compatible with our defense. Whether you score running the ball or throwing the ball, points are points, and touchdowns via the run are sometimes more devastating than those through the air because they wear out the opposing defense more.

 

The thing about this is that Schotty doesn't seem to want to open up the playbook until we are losing.

 

I don't think this is true. I think Schotty gets way too cutesy early on in the game with the reverses and trick plays and Seminole and all that crap and then when the Jets are in trouble in the third quarter, which is what often happens when you have failed to establish an offensive persona for the game by then, he suddenly starts paying attention to details and all the cutesy crap goes out the window and the Jets start to look like a normal pro set.

The Buffalo game is the one game that was just an abomination in terms of offensive play calling. The Jets had the momentum and were controlling the clock and were basically dictating to the Bills at will and then Schotty started to mix passes in with the runs (why?) and Sanchez got picked several times and we lost the game. That was just a horrible job by the offensive coordinator. If the weather had been ok then maybe (MAYBE) you let the rookie chuck the ball around some but that day in those conditions you button it up and win the game the simple way.

 

rothlisberger is a good example. He didn't throw the ball over 30 times his rookie season.

The only difference is that the Steelers have been a SB caliber team since he's been there.