full first round with trades 2/16

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  1. duncc5

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    CLE trades #4 and #22 for RG3
    WAS trades #6 for matt flynn
    CIN trades #21, #53, and a late rounder for richardson


    1. IND- andrew luck qb stanford
    duh

    2. CLE (from STL)-robert griffin III qb baylor
    the browns will need to send both of their 1st rounders to STL to win rg3 sweepstakes.

    3. MIN- matt kalil ot usc
    franchise ot at #3 is a no brainer with an injured rb and young qb

    4. STL (from CLE)- justin blackmon wr oklahoma state
    rams get the playmaker they wanted all along, plus another 1st rounder

    5. TB- mo claiborne cb lsu
    lots of needs here, but claiborne is the BPA especially given their needs.

    6. GB (from WAS, matt flynn)- quinton coples de north carolina
    packers will likely franchise flynn so they can trade him, at which point dan snyder will overbid in typical fashion giving up the #6 pick. packers need help everywhere on D, and are enamored with coples's potential.

    7. JAC- riley reiff ot iowa.
    a bit too early to go WR, so the jaguars take the second best OL in the draft to protect their young qb and star running back

    8. CAR- michael brockers dt lsu
    the panthers need serious help on defense, and getting a freak like brockers to take up space on the line is a good start.

    9. MIA- courtney upshaw olb alabama
    with the top 2 OL off the board, the fins giddily scoop up arguably the best pass rusher in the draft

    10. BUF- melvin ingram de/olb south carolina
    this guy is shooting up draft boards, and it's easy to see why. the bills need to improve their pass rush, so he is the logical choice here.

    11. KC- jonathan martin ot stanford
    Kc has lots of needs but is thrilled to see martin fall in their lap.

    12. CIN (from SEA)- trent richardson rb alabama
    Seattle takes the opportunity to move back and not reach for a QB, getting Cinci's picks at 21 and 53, as well as a late rounder. The Bengals waste no time picking Richardson, who was at the top of their wish list.

    13. ARI- david decastro g stanford
    ideally arizona would like to pick up another WR to take some attention off of larry, but their o-line is just plain awful and they can't pass on decastro here.

    14. DAL- dre kirkpatrick cb alabama
    although their o-line is banged up, dallas can't pass on kirkpatrick if he's still here at 14. if they do pass on him, rob ryan will kill someone (possibly himself)

    15. PHI- luke kuechly lb boston college
    this pick seems like one of the only locks of the draft. the eagles really only have one glaring area of need (other than a full offseason), and that's inside linebacker.

    16. NYJ- michael floyd wr notre dame
    sticking to my guns here. if the first half of the draft plays out like it does in this scenario, floyd would be the logical choice. can't afford to waste a first rounder on another potential project like mercilus or barron. hightower is also plausible here if the FO thinks he can play outside (may be a bit of a reach though)

    17. CIN- janoris jenkins cb north alabama
    a very good first round for cinci, getting potential future pro-bowlers at RB and CB, two areas of major need.

    18. SD- whitney mercilus de/olb
    WR is an option here, but the chargers need help with their pass rush. mercilus has massive potential and might be worth the risk.

    19. CHI- kendall wright wr baylor
    chicago desperately needs a playmaker at WR. wright could come in and be that guy immediately

    20. TEN- zach brown lb north carolina
    a lot of mocks have tennessee taking brown here, and it's easy to see why. he would fit in nicely.

    21. SEA (from CIN)- brandon weeden qb oklahoma state
    a lot of scouts are high on tannehill's potential, but i get the impression carroll wants a qb who can play now. weeden is that guy, and if it wasn't for his age he might give luck and rg3 a run for their money.

    22. STL (from CLE)- devon still dt penn state
    the rams take the BPA with so many needs, and join the bengals atop the first round winners' list.

    23. DET- alfonzo dennard cb nebraska
    seems to be falling down many draft boards, but i still think he's a better prospect than gilmore, minnifield, or the johnsons. he could come in and help detroits miserable pass D right away. barron is an option here, but i think the lions will give spievey another shot (CT represent)

    24. PIT- cordy glenn g georgia
    needing to protect big ben, the steelers don't take long to make their selection once they realize glenn is still there. glenn is versatile and has an nfl ready body.

    25. DEN- dwayne allen te clemson
    a tight end is a qb's best friend, and tebow needs all the friends he can get on that miserable offense.

    26. HOU- nick perry de/olb usc
    mario williams will likely be gone, so houston needs to find a replacement with this pick. perry is the best pass rusher available.

    27. NE- andre branch DE clemson
    the pats need to get younger on their D line. BB is notorious for picking BPA regardless of need, but in this case, branch falls into both categories.

    28. GB- mike adams ot ohio state
    green bay improved their d big time by picking up coples, so they have the luxury of taking the BPA here, who provides an insurance policy for their franchise qb.

    29. BAL- dont'a hightower lb alabama
    takes baltimore a nanosecond to select hightower, who could end up being one of their next great linebackers.

    30. SF- alshon jeffery wr south carolina
    let's be honest, if SF doesn't pick a wideout here there will be a lot of unhappy folks in the bay area. jeffery has been tumbling down big boards but is very talented.

    31. NE- mark barron s alabama
    the pats have been running through safeties like tony larussa uses his bullpen. they take the athletic barron hoping that he can finally give them consistency. (side note, i think he will be a bust)

    32. NYG- peter konz c/ol wisconsin
    the giants have the luxury of taking BPA here, and konz gives them much needed depth and versatility on their o-line.

    may have left off a sure-fire first rounder or two accidentally, but i think this mock is pretty realistic considering both team needs and BPA
     
  2. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    In that scenario (Upshaw being gone) taking Floyd makes the most sense.
     
  3. TheCoolerGlennFoley

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    Flynn is a free agent and even if he's franchised, there's no way it would cost the #6 overall pick. Other then that a few picks like Allen to the Broncos that I haven't seen elsewhere that I like.
     
  4. gsulli5861

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    No way on Flynn. GB can't afford to franchise him. Washington will try to make a play for RG3, but Cleveland has the ammo.
     
  5. duncc5

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    i agree that flynn isn't worth the #6 pick, but I think CLE wins the RG3 bidding, so never underestimate the stupidity of dan snyder living in the moment. probably won't happen, but I wouldn't say it's an impossible scenario... especially if the pack franchises him and miami shows interest.
     
  6. Harpua

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    I think more needs added to the trade, but your not far off on the premise of things. If Cleveland wins the RG3 battle, then Washington will switch gears and go after Flynn.

    Not bad over all. Noone stands out as too high or too low based on current projections with the Exception of Weeden. The kid is good, but he's what, 50 years old? :wink: I think he's going to drop into the early to mid 2nd becasue of it.
     
  7. joeklecko

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    Good job. I wouldn't be thrilled if things shook out this way. Yes, the Jets would get a great WR prospect, but I think the first pick needs to be an OLB. In your scenario, however, Floyd would have to be the pick unless they could trade down. Since Chicago, SF, Houston and Baltimore are all said to need/want WRs, it's possible that one of them would covet Floyd and the Jets could trade down. If so, I'd do that in a NY minute. Chicago would probably only have to give up a 3rd maybe a 4th, unless one of the other were offering their 2nd, in which case if Chicago wanted Floyd badly enough, they might overpay.

    With the trade down, the Jets could take Perry or Adams, hopefully Perry.

    In your scenario both St. Louis and Seattle would make out like bandits. Seattle would get a QB and finally get a replacement for Steve Hutchinson.
     
  8. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    nice work thanks. would love to go defense at 16 but if the teams above screw the pooch what can u do.

    have not watched floyd at all so u folks are the eyes/ears.
     
  9. jilozzo

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    agree jk - the trade down is a real possibility this year - as opposed to recent years past. the only thing that would prevent it would be 2 players - upshaw or dicastro. well see after the combines.
     
  10. Br4d

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    Interesting take on the first fifteen. I think I'd trade down if I were the Jets and take Glenn or Hightower plus pickup a pick or two.
     
  11. LoyalJetsFan

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    I stopped reading after : WAS trades #6 for matt flynn
     
  12. duncc5

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    It definitely wouldn't be a bad year to trade back. A lot of scouts seem to think that the difference between Floyd/Wright/Jeffery/Sanu is marginal. Same can be said for Mercilus/Perry/Hightower/Lewis/Barron etc. Being a Notre Dame fan, I would take Floyd in a heartbeat under this scenario. Obviously I'm a little biased, but after watching him for 4 years I'm sold on his potential. The body control he displays for someone of his size and strength is remarkable, and he has great hands. MF's speed doesn't wow you, but he's deceptive and has very good instincts. Doesn't mind blocking, either (seems to like it actually). The guy could end up being a bust, but he put up historic #s at ND, during a period when his coaching staff was in flux and the quarterback situation was just plain terrible.
     
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    Zach Brown is going WAY WAY too high, I dont even think he belongs in the top 40 prospects
     
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    I think either Upshaw or Ingram will be there at 16, and I'd prefer to take either of them over a WR. Having said that, I like what I've seen from Floyd and we really could use a stud young WR. He consistently produced while the QB and coaching situations at Notre Dame were a complete debacle.
     
  15. Attackett

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    I think Floyd will end up going much higher, like top 10 when all is said and done. If he is available at 16 I'm almost to the point of we have to take him no matter who is on the board.

    WR is as big as any need on this team and at this point the only guys I would consider over him are 100% Richardson and possibly Upshaw/Ingram if either of them are available too.
     
  16. jilozzo

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    is floyd that good?? man the jets better make sure he can make an immediate impact if he is their guy.
     
  17. Br4d

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    WR's rarely make an immediate impact. If the Jets think Floyd can come in and catch 50 or 60 passes next year and stretch the field then he's a worthwhile pickup. If he's going to have the rookie blues that a lot of WR's have they can't really afford that right now. Not with Sanchez having progression issues.
     
  18. Jersey Joe 67

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    I'd really love to see some help for our defense.
     
  19. Harpua

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    Floyd has the size, hands, body controll, and on feild attitude to start right away and be impactful. He is a very capable and willing run blocker as well.

    The two knocks on him are top end speed and off feild issues. He went along way to answer the off feild issue thing this year, living in a freshman dorm, avoiding trouble, and no more alcohol (or any other) related arrests.

    Sad as it may be to say, the 40 is going to be a tool teams use to seperate guys who played well in NCAA ball from the ones who could be better pros this year. Most of the top prospect are very big guys. Everyone needs to (and as of this point is) run at the combine to help clear up questions of over all speed. Kendall Wright may be alone in that no one questions his speed, he's just 3 to 5 inches shorter and 30 to 40 punds lighter than guys like Floyd, Sanu, Blackmon, Jeffery, and Toon.
     
  20. Attackett

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    He would have been right up there with AJ Green and Julio last year if he came out and there is no denying the impact they had in there rookie years.

    I'm actually very surprised he isn't in the conversation as far as best Wrs in this class and think that could change if he runs well at combine.I'm kinda hoping he doesn't run too well as his potential is unlimited and 40 time is pretty meaningless for a Wr like Floyd.

    Rookie Wrs are making more and more of an impact as rookies over the last 5 or so years and I don't see any reason why Floyd can't continue that trend.
     

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