Football Outsiders says Revis had one of the greatest seasons of all time

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  1. Salz

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    If Darrelle Revis were an offensive player, his level of performance last season would have broken several all-time records, a statistical analysis by Football Outsiders reveals.
    The stat-based website compared Revis' performance last season with a normal season by a cornerback, then used the difference to make comparisons at other positions.
    "A player playing at Revis’ level while getting a comparable usage rate at a different position in 2009 would have set the NFL passing record by nearly 500 yards, beat out Jerry Rice for the single-season receiving record, or run for 2,000 yards while averaging a record-tying 6.4 yards per carry," the report says.


    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets..._seasons_DZOc2UJRG1UVwiXRxy96CJ#ixzz0t19M5dqj
     
  2. Jets n Boys

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    Those numbers are sort of stupid. Whats the scale to compare a CBs production against a QB, HB or a WR?
     
  3. Hobbes3259

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    The actual report was posted here a while back. The reasoning is ok, except in misstates one factor.

    it claims that Revis is more Valuable because teams still throw at him, as opposed to Nnamdi because teams throw away from him.


    The reason teams still throw at Revis (and part of the reason his stats are what they are) is because of the overall defense. Sometimes there is no where else to go with the ball.


    I caught alot of grief on another thread for pointing this out but Lowery put up the same numbers proportionally on less snaps.

    Now, there is a world of difference between always covering the number one guy and the 2nd or Third WR. That's what Makes Revis a star and Lowery another guy, but the numbers are what they are.
     
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    They explained it there, they compared his season to an average CB season. I guess they used that ratio with an average offensive player's season.
     
  5. Br4d

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    Darrelle Revis could have had a Babe Ruth 1927 or Joe Morgan 1975 type season at CB and the Jets could have missed the playoffs anyway. That he had one of the greatest seasons a CB ever had and the Jets barely squeaked into the playoffs with two flopping rollovers at the end of the year tells you exactly how valuable a CB is in the scheme of things.

    Who is that punter in Oakland who is blowing away the record books? How many games has he won the Raiders? Would he be worth 16 million a year?
     
  6. fozzi58

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    Why does everyone mis-state that - "two rollovers"

    ONE rollover. The Bungles got spanked 2 weeks in a row. So even if they had played all their peeps 2 weeks straight - they would have lost both games...

    Lechler
     
  7. fozzi58

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    double post...
     
  8. Br4d

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    The Bengals played their second string against the Jets for most of the game. That's a rollover. What happened the second week is irrelevant because if the Jets hadn't had the rollover in Indy the week before they wouldn't have played the second game in a row even after the first one was a blowout.

    The Jets were 15-1 against to make the playoffs going into week 16. Then the Colts stepped out of their way and the Bengals followed suit in week 17.
     
  9. All Gas No Shake

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    its not irrelevant because they played all of their starters sans two people (granted one was benson) and were getting demolished when they came out

    coaches like to do that so that just in case they lose, they can tell their team, "now lets really go play them next week!" ... they got smacked

    shit, indys team played 3/5 of a close game and im reluctant to call that a roll over
     
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    Apparently Rex designed the 09 defense to dare the opposing QB to throw in his direction.

    They bit and threw 111 times, the 3rd most in the league. Revis only allowed 42 receptions and 2 TD's.

    So based on that I'm sure he will never repeat his 09 season. Teams now have a seasons worth of tape and Rex no doubtingly has to retool his schemes.

    I see Revis this year playing more of a traditional dominate CB role and just have opposing QB's avoid him.
     
  12. MadBacker Prime

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    Are you a Jets fan? Did you see the game or even hear anything about the game after?

    Are you merely Acting!!

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  13. Pluvrr

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    yeah man I don't think your logic is quite sound.
     

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