Most of us here agree that the team needs to predominantly draft defensive players. With that, the biggest needs are DE/DT, OLB, and S. Given the first two picks the Jets have late in rounds 1 and 3, what position do you think the team should draft not taking into account BPA and such? Personally, I'm thinking DL in the first round and OLB in the third.
The question is... while it is possible to find DEs that contribute in rd 3 it's not that easy to find OLBs. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for: 1) Jeremy Beal - Jarvis Jenkins 2) Watt/Heyward - Steven Friday In both cases we'd to trade up to the mid-high 3rd round...
May be true but I'm looking for a difference maker at DL, not a contributor. This team already has 4 or 5 contributors at DL, having a 6th won't help the pass rush. OLB may be weak but the LB corps as a whole is pretty good: Pace, Harris, and Scott can all get at the quarterback. This team needs a healthy Jenkins (is he retiring?) and a monster DE that'll occupy two blockers and generate pressure. Jenkins may be a pipe dream but the Jets desperately lack a dominant NT or end.
Flip that around and we're on the same page. Role players can get the job done at 34 end. If we aren't getting a top tier prospect at the position (Dareus, Fairley, or Watt), then we should go after the best available pass rusher - probably Jeremy Beal and Jabaal Sheard. I'd still like for this team to get younger on the line, but like I said, role players can get the job done at that position. You need "special" players to rush the passer consistently.
If BPA is completely out of the equation and we are going positions only....I would say OLB in the 1st and a DL/S in the 3rd. I'm really hoping Jarron Gilbert can develop
The first rule of drafting, especially in late Rd 1 ..."Let the board come to you". A GM can't commit to a specific position without any information on who's available. The Jets will have no idea who's available till they're OTC. I'll take the best player available in late round with intelligent reasoning (No QB, C, CB, WR).
Luckily 34DE is a pretty deep position this year and also atm a guy like Beal (OLB) seems to belong in that 25-32 range where we'll pick. But I agree on the fact that it's hard to speculate since BPA with "intelligent reasoning" is almost always the way to go... To me that means no QC, RB, FB, TE, G, C, ILB, CB and even S (not in rd 1)...
Agreed. ATM in the upcoming draft I see one of the top talent DE's (Watt, Heyward, Jordan) and at least one of the LB's (Houston, Beal, Smith, Sheard) on the board when we pick late in the 1st. Personally, with the choice, I'd have to go LB in the first now since we have no 2nd rounder. BTW, what's the opinions of the board's "draft guru's" on whether or not Aldon Smith could fit in our scheme. He'll probably be gone by our pick and he's raw but I think he's got the size and potential to be a beast in either scheme (4-3 or 3-4).
Beal is going to play 3-4 OLB. This draft is pretty deep the first 2 rounds. The Jets should get a good OLB or DE in Round 1, but you never know. Something I've been considering, especially since Sat's night game (3rd QTR, Ground and pound), drafting a RB in Round 1 if all other DL or OLB are out of play. I know some may say it's crazy, but LT is on his last legs and we could get a RB like Mike LeShoure in Rd 1, he would be an excellent compliment with Greene. Again, only if there is no other options....take the BPA.
I wasn't suggesting Beal is a 34 DE just saying bottom of rd 1 seems a good place where to draft either a 34DE or Beal looking at the talent pool in this draft. Meh... I wouldn't like to go RB in rd 1 this year even though there might be some talent. If next year there are expanded rosters (say like 55) I'm rooting for the Jets to add a big guy (Ricky Williams?) but not draft one (at least early). Tomlinson can still contribute on a limited number of carries.
I know its crazy but are you deadset against CB if hes BPA and Cromartie is presumably gone? I mean if we had a dangerous #3 corner who has experience covering guys on those middle routes. Thats a scary thought. Especially since we could still draft pass rushers in the middle rounds, and get some role players for the dline via FA.
Think Ryan Williams is on the board when the Jets are on the clock with the 96th pick of the draft ? Could be an intriguing pick, albeit high risk high reward.
Surely we stay away from drafting a rb, at least with our round 1 or 3 pick due to the fact we are trying to develop McKnight
Good point!!! I'm not expecting Cro to be gone, if he is, a CB would be an option especially since Lowery is being converted to S.
I want to clarify my position on RB in RD 1, which I thought I made clear. If all other options of BPA to fill a need (DE, OLB) are exhausted, and Mikel LeShoure is available in late Round 1, I would consider going RB. It's clear after half way thru the season LT was on fumes. Greene and McKnight aren't enough in our backfield with the ground and pound philosphy. I still agree with most, DL and OLB are our immediate needs. My issue? None are available in late rd 1...where do we turn??? Not Reaching for players. Drafting at the top of rd 1 is a different story, need is a big factor due to amount of coin you're paying. Never say never when it comes to player personnel and drafting. I never rule out good football players that are available when my team is OTC, no matter what the circunstances. Most teams are 1 injury away from losing a key player and have no quality depth. My drafting position: BPA with common sense (need). I don't expect everyone to agree or understand my drafting philosphy.
Way to call out the obvious. Would you like to stick your head out the window and give us a weather report next? That would be great.
