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Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by HomeoftheJets, Nov 19, 2023.
I feel the same way. This feels like the Favre debacle all over again.
Hey Joe Douglas, it looks like the Packers GM, Gutekunst, completely fleeced you and clearly Won the trade for Rodgers to this point:
Just pathetic that Douglas still has a job here. He's getting schooled by other GMs in these trades. And it's not like anyone thought Gutekunst was a top GM before this trade. Compared to Douglas, the Packers GM looks like Lombardi.
I've never seen a GM willingly throw away a season like this before. I hope Douglas gets the Maccagnan/Gase treatment and never finds work again in the NFL.
Here's where our offenses have ranked in PPG and YPG under Douglas:
2023 so far: 3rd worst, 2nd worst
2022: 4th worst, 8th worst
2021: 5th worst, 7th worst
2020: worst, worst
2019: 2nd worst, worst
He has built half a team. He has to go.
He should be gone just based on his lack of commonsense at the QB position. He stockpiled the position with guys who shouldn't be in the league when there where some guys out there that were clearly better options.
Sauce is cryptic tweeting. It feels like even they get a pass to do this since everyone else gets a pass this year.
Saleh needs to get a hold of the locker room before it spirals out of control.
scary to say but wouldn’t be surprised if Wilson, Sauce, Q want out after , dare I say, another bad year next year.
You are what your record is. Never been a JD fan.
Joe Douglas has been here for 3 of the worst offenses of all time
I think the whole front office will stick around for the Rodgers season. They'll be given one last chance to turn it around. If next season doesn't go exceedingly well, everyone is gone.
I don't think I'd blame Woody if he just blew it up and started from scratch. They'd have to trade Rodgers and probably draft a new QB. I think he'd actually have a lot of fan support if that's the direction he went. The Jets might be an attractive destination for a potential GM, there is solid talent on the team.
At this point I'm just expecting a below average Aaron Rodgers return next season and probably another year with no playoffs.
He has a lot of friends. He will get a scout job somewhere
but I do agree on your overall point, it is insulting what Douglas has done with this team
I doubt we make a move but the article below is a pretty good summary of available candidates.
You don't look at Woody's hiring record and come to the conclusion that the next moron he hires is going to be an improvement in any way, over the current moron he's hired -- you know it will only be worse.
Borgonzi is a very intriguing name.
The Chiefs have developed an incredible OL and defense by drafting guys late in the first and throughout the later rounds for the last few years.
If we move on from JD, Borgonzi would be a the top of my list.
SF, Philly, Chiefs. 3 of the best franchises in the league. Not a guarantee that they will all pan out but this is how the good franchises conduct a search.
I also highly doubt that we'll look at any of these candidates as they are way too logical.
If you want the Lions OC (Johnson) as the new coach. Hire Jeff Ireland and give him a second chance. Johnson got his start in Miami under Ireland.
Two guys on the same page for once? how refreshing
Good list, thanks.
In general I'd favor anyone that comes from a long term winning organization like the Chiefs and 49'ers and Eagles. Other than that, I'd certainly consider anyone that the Steelers thought was worth considering.
It is absolutely fascinating that this forum continues to spin 'round each decade now, just listening to the same tools that CONSTANTLY call for the coaches and GM's head, when it is obvious that is purposeful. You can't break a cycle by repeating the same action. You have to take extreme steps and the only one left is to get Woody out. I am curious, how everyone acknowledges that ZW should never have been drafted, EVER, and this was a choice made by the Owner. Everyone knows this. It's not a secret as to why the coach and GM tow the company line, it's not a secret who they wanted this offseason, as there was articles written about it, and there were direct quotes that were open to possibilities in free agents. It was understood how excited they were to meet with other QBs this offseason, until when? What stopped it? You're saying the guy who just had one of the best draft classes ever, and has consistently found talent with undrafted guys, you're telling me this guy suddenly only wants the worst QBs in the league on his team? You think it was his idea to pick ZW, then against all the obvious signs, he then chose to obsess randomly, out of the blue about AR? That sounds like the same person to you?
The reason no one is going to fired is because the owner knows it is his fault, as does everyone in the entire NFL. Except you dipshits.
they are 2 completely different transactions. and amos was a cheap depth signing after clarke went down. you are complaining about our 4th string safety we signed for less then 2 mil when our starter he traded for got hurt?
Gutekunst really fucked JD, no doubt about it. JD had all the leverage to the point where GB already stated they are going with Love and Rodgers had astronomical 110 mil commitment, and folded like cheap lawn chair with 3 days still to go before the draft. I remember JD saying the pick swap was the last thing GB requested. He already conceded poor protection on 2024 pick. Already gave a better of two second rounders in 2023. Then Gutekunst, who was probably already jumping from joy to get rid of 110 mil contract and get high picks on top of all figured, let me ask for some more, because why not? And dumb ass JD swallowed it too, costing us a good LT, and subsequently the season.
And this was just the beginning of JD's fuck-ups this season. What happened to giving Zach red shirt year? You bring only Boyle? No OLine to protect? Davis retires in August and Harman sucks, you do nothing? Rodgers goes down, you only sign scrub Simien? OL continue to deteriorate, no trade for Ezra Cleveland. Just fell sleep at the wheel after Rodgers said yes, that's it.
The time has come to move on.