http://www.draftdaddy.com/MD/GJH_Mock.cfm Toughest part was trying to predict what N.O. might do ... this mock is predicated on the Saints picking Brick Ferguson, but if they go Mario Williams or even Matt Leinart a domino effect takes place and my Jets selections would look radically different ... for example, I'd probably start with Vernon Davis or Jay Cutler at #4, and that woud alter my strategy for the proceeeding picks ... but as is, Brick to the Saints, this is my final mock ENJOY :up:
NY JETS 1. DE Mario Williams 1. C Nick Mangold 2. OLB Chris Gocong 3. OT Paul McQuistan 3. DT Montavious Stanley 4. OG Jahri Evans 4. WR Brandon Marshall
Interesting taking Gocong so high. I do not doubt it as a possibility, but at this point in time I do not think he is worth that high a pick. Not to say it coudnt happen, he certainly could be taken as a reach that high, Ronald Bartell style, but I do not think it would be in our best interest
Gocong had 41 Sacks in 23 Games hmy: ... unheard of, at any level ... Gil Brandt never recalls seeing anything that obscene, and he's been scouting for a hundred years ... and Brandt, one time architect of doomsday, is now projecting Gocong ahead of Mathias Kiwanuka Gocong is going much higher than you think, fellas ... mark it down PS. Gocong himself slipped early last week and told a reporter the Jets have shown massive interest, and he believes the Jets are preparing to pick him in RD 2 If so, Jets will be drafting him as a 34 OLB ... Great fit IMO
Jerious Norwood in the second round? seems too high... everything i've seem and read has him in the late 3rd/early 4th
Yeah I agree, dwalsh ... I had the Steelers reaching a bit for Norwood because I wouldn't have him on the board till the end of RD 3, which is their next pick, and in my view they have to address RB ... I Just don't view Parker as an every down back, Bettis is out, and Staley is toast ... so the Steelers are in a tough spot cause it's a really weak RB class I'm figuring Bush, Williams, Maroney and White are all gone at 32 ... personally I think Addai {at 32 Overall} would be as big a reach as Norwood at the end of RD 2, only in that case you'll be reaching with a 1 ... and Calhoun is a bad fit because he's almost a Willie Parker clone, at least Norwood offers some size IMO Norwood is a 3 ... sort of a mid 3 ... so in that spot, end of RD 2, I do have the Steelers reaching a bit to fill a need
I personally don't like taking so many olineman especially since we already picked up a couple of olinemen already through FA
Gocong is moving up, the kid has a non-stop motor. Gocong reminds me of Vrabel and would be a nice fit in the 3-4. Gocong seems like a Mangini type of player and had a visit at Hofstra too!
I think we will take an OT higher, probably where you have Mangold at 29 and then a C where you have McQuistan, because we need an OT to start next year and McQuistan isn't ready to start IMO. Gogong was great but I wouldn't take him over Ryans.
I'm garunteeing Marcus Mcneil with the 2nd round pick. If you guys remember i predicted the jolley trade before it leaked to the media so trust me, mcneil is the pick in round 2.
Actually he had two visits to hofstra, WW ... was recently called back for a second visit ... and Gocong recently said he believes the Jets are interested in drafting him in RD 2, and that means #35 Overall And that's not a reach for this player, and here's why ... Aside from the fact that Gocong possesses the prototypical size you look for in a 34 LB {6' 2"+/260}, here's the only stat you need to know ... 41 Sacks in 23 Games Wanna put that in perspective? I don't care if you tell me that happened in pop warner, 41 Sacks in 23 Games is so obscene that a man like Gil Brandt, who has been scouting for a hundred years, cannot recall anyone who approached 41/23 {that ratio} in all of his years in scouting, at any level ... and that's just one of the reasons Brandt ranks Gocong extremely high for a small school stud, even ahead of Mathias Kiwanuka If anyone wants to trust the draft websites on Gocong and believe #35 is too early {including draftdaddy where I contribute}, be my guest, but I'll put my money with Gil Brandt on this one, the architect of the doomsday defense and one of the great scouts in the history of the NFL Lastly, Gocong also possesses great character by all accounts and reeks of the type of player mangini claims to love
One more thing: on the one round mock page, you have this. 04 N.Y. Jets ~ OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia 29 N.Y. Jets ~ DT Gabe Watson, Michigan 35 N.Y. Jets ~ DE Tamba Hali, Penn State 71 N.Y. Jets ~ OT Ryan O'Callaghan, California 97 N.Y. Jets ~ CB Alan Zemaitis, Penn State 103 N.Y. Jets ~ OLB Mike Kudla, Ohio State 117 N.Y. Jets ~ OT Paul McQuistan Weber State 138 N.Y. Jets ~ QB Ingle Martin, Furman 211 N.Y. Jets ~ S Jaxson Appel, Texas A&M You have McQuistan going a round and a half later in that one. Plus, the draft is completely different...
That's not my mock ... mine is the four rounder ... I can't speak for another mans mock ... we just have a difference of opinion on certain players, mack
Not if McNeill had no health concerns ... he can be a dominant tackle ... but he has a serious back condition and rumor has it he can slide dramtically this weekend if the medical reports are not clean ... I'm getting the impression his medical reports are not clean, and if that be the case he'll slide out of day one entirely {it could be that serious} ... no one knows for sure because we are not privy to that information, but there's a bad vibe floating around on McNeill's back condition ... we'll see for sure this weekend, but you'll know why he slides dramtically if it happens BTW, if his back was no issue at all we would not even be having this discussion, about McNeill at 35 or even 29 ... he's too good to slide that far if healthy ... that alone is a red flag IMO, but like I said, we'll learn for sure this weekend
I'm not criticizing these picks because frankly I'm just not familiar with these guys after Mangold. That said I note for what its worth that in their latest mocks Kiper has Gocong going 75 and Scouts Inc. has him at 131. Scouts has McQuistan at 155. Again what do I know but some of the guys I'd be interested in at 35 that you have going lower are Ryans, McNeill (i know you dropped him for health) and if we ever went TE Pope or Lewis, also there are 3 pretty good corners there too. Just some thoughts.
That's a Good Post, DG ... sometimes I play a hunch on certain players and I'm doing that with McQuistan ... I know I have him going higher than most sites, and some of them are very reputable, including scouts inc. and Kiper To some extent I'm doing that with Gocong as well, though not as significantly as I am with McQuistan ... at least with Gocong I have a powerful allie in Gil Brandt, but with McQuistan I'm pretty much on an island with few exceptions, but there are a few who grade McQuistan about the same Couple of years ago I did likewise with Osi Umenyiora ... I projected him in RD 2 and I didn't see another soul who did the same ... like Gocong and McQuistan most sites recognized Osi as a pretty exceptional small school stud, but none that I saw had him going higher than RD 3 {and only a few had him that high} ... I played a hunch on that one, because despite his small school status I felt Osi had a world of ability and NFL size to boot, which I believed would be enough to push him into RD 2 on at least a few boards ... as it so happened the Giants {Ugh!!} pounced in RD 2 Last year I did the same with OT Todd Herremans, similar small school stud to McQuistan .. I projected him in RD 4 {higher than most} and he went in RD 4, but he wound up starting some games for the Eagles as a rookie .. I actually projected him to the Jets in RD 4, on this board {I'm sure someone here might remember that because I discussed Herremans at length?}, but the Jets drafted Kerry Rhodes {nice pick} and the Eagles snatched Herremans three picks later Anyhow, I tend to do that with a few small school studs every year ... I'll project them a bit higher than the norm if I really like the upside, but it's always playing a hunch to some degree, and in NO WAY am I always right {its more hit and miss} ... this year I'm doing that with Gocong and McQuistan The Jets have really shown a lot of interest in Gocong as stated above, called him back for a second visit ... he thinks they have RD 2 in mind {I believe him}, but maybe they have RD 3 in mind ... I don't think there's any way he sticks around that long, I actually like him more than Ryans {bigger uspide for dominance in my view, though admittedly more risky as a small schooler}, but we'll all findout this weekend ... only two more days! {GO JETS!! :up:} Lastly, I don't know if this makes any sense DG ... I think Ryans is a safer bet {and a better bet} to be a GOOD PLAYER, but I believe Gocong is a better bet to be VERY GOOD to EXCEPTIONAL ... that's what I mean by a bigger upside
