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  1. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    So there’s confusion and break downs leading to penalties and sacks.

    Got it.
     
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  2. Jets69

    Jets69 Well-Known Member

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    Zuerlein is our entire offense, I only wish he had some Tom Tupa in him, and could play QB
     
  3. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    damn dude. did zach bang your mom for you to hate him this much?
     
  4. Jets69

    Jets69 Well-Known Member

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    That's original, I dislike him, simply because, he's easily the worst QB in the NFL, I realize you have a hard on for him, and that's fine.
     
  5. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    I prefer inability. Ability makes it sound like they have a special talent for sucking at it. OK, wait, wait a second. o_O
     
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  6. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    he was his 1st 2 years. now he's not. I seen one ranking come out that had him at 21st ranked QB which I think is pretty fair from what i've seen. he's better then about 10 QBs currently. he's also outplayed 3 top 5 Qbs head to head this year already.
    I don't have a hard on, i'm just realistic. you are just angry and irrational. a hard on would be calling him a top 10 QB. angry and irrational is calling him trash. realistic is saying he's between the 20-25th ranked QB which is better then being ranked dead last like his 1st 2 years
     
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  7. rscherwin

    rscherwin Well-Known Member

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    Well done
     
  8. ouchy

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    Funny, when I look at the league leaders he is ranked 40th, and 30th among starters, just ahead of Danial Jones and Tannehill.
     
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  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    league leaders of what lol. take a step back from sorting a stat page
     
  10. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Crazy that someone would use results to measure a performance…
     
  11. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    numbers w/o context have no meaning.

    i'll trade you right now. i'll give you 100 for 10. The 100 is higher so you are getting the better end of the deal. wanna trade? or would you like context of 100 of what for 10 of what?
     
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    He cited where Wilson is in ranking, not raw numbers. That literally is context. If he said "Zach Wilson has thrown for 1,097 yards, 4 touchdowns and a 73 QB rating", you might have a point. Yeah, those are just numbers.

    But he shared, in context, where that ranks him among other qualifying QBs in the league.

    duh...
     
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  13. bleedgreen

    bleedgreen Well-Known Member

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    Not that i want to get involved in this silly argument, i assume you are grownups and are able to demonstrate some kind of critical thinking, but just stating someone is ranked x, without stating the criteria, is demonstrating lazy thinking
     
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    I think he breaks the record if we make the playoffs. This team is being too kick a million field goals.
     
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  15. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    no he didn't he said ranked 40th and 30th but not in what. is it yards? TDs? INTs? etc. so he didn't even go that far.

    also again even in context the context isn't great. hurts threw 3 picks against us but really only 1 was his fault. it's why ESPN made their own QBR and why PFF gives grades and why AWS does advanced stats. Because everyone at this point knows the normal "stats" don't tell nearly the whole story.
     
  16. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    And where is Wilson ranked in all of those? 30th+
     
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  17. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    not sure, haven't looked personally. but those are still "ideas to fix the stats issues" and in their own right far form perfect. If numbers could tell the story, teams wouldn't have scouting departments watching film all day. they would read a stat sheet and know who to sign, who to draft etc.
     
  18. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Wilson is 29th in QBR
     
  19. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    ok and?
     
  20. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    You mentioned QBR and you also mentioned you didn't know where he was ranked so I was just telling you
     

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