Fake Punt a Recipe For Disaster (Update: Westhoff Explains)

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  1. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/3032275-419/bears-jets-ryan-fake-davis.html


     
  2. LeonNYJ

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    It was a horrible play and very obvious. If anything, put Brad Smith in place of Sanchez and get Holmes out of there. IDK who you're going to throw to, but they can figure that out another time. Thing is, you gotta have the same exact personnel as a regular punt otherwise, it's kind of obvious.

    Brad Smith can also run the ball if needed, whereas Sanchez cannot.
     
  3. James Calvin

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    If you look at the replay, it wasn't stopped by the defense.

    Smith dropped the ball. It hit him in the hands and wasn't tipped.
     
  4. dcm1602

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    If were gonna run fake punts lets use a recipe that fricken works.

    Weatherford is more than athletic enough to run the ball 3 yards as weve seen both this and last year.
     
  5. legler82

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    I live in Chicago and to a man the Bears claim they were not fooled at all. Cutler went as far as saying "I don't know what they were thinking there".

    We tried this very high risk play with a former QB going against a former cornerback now wide receiver in Rasheed Davis. Besides it being a poor call to make, it seems like we didn't do a very good job in choosing the personel to use and go against. Sanchez was in there to throw the pass, couldn't they have also put Holmes and Cotch in to be the one receiving the ball?


    Interesting tidbit about that play, because we were afraid to punt to a former CB now WR, we attempted a fake punt pass on 4th down to former QB now WR who was being defended by a WR who too was a former CB. Looks like people switching positions doesn't happen only on Madden; shout out to whoever closed the McKnight should get some defensive snaps thred.
     
  6. gustoonarmy

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    .........and had #16 made the catch, everyone would be saying how great a call it was.
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't
     
  7. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I don't think the Jets expected this formation to fool the Bears in terms of whether or not they were punting. Obviously when Sanchez and Holmes were out there it wasn't a punt.

    What they did get was a good matchup. They had there starting QB passing a ball to a WR matched up against the Bears 5th string WR (not CB) in man coverage.

    That's a great match-up, Smith needs to catch the damn ball.
     
  8. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    I agree with this 100%, but again, why use Sanchez in that situation? Any Chicago player that put eyes on #6 in the huddle before that play knew it had to be a fake.
     
  9. legler82

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    See my last post Davis is a former CB.
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

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    OK, there's probably a good reason he's a former DB and now a 5th string WR. And it's not because he's a great WR.
     
  11. legler82

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    Same can be said about Smith as a WR. Why try such a risky play with your 4th string WR who was a former QB?
     
  12. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Good post. That helps explain why they called it.
     
  13. Acad23

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    Count me out.

    It was a silly play. Period.
    The reason some won't admit that is because it places the blame fully on the coaching staff. It painfully exposes a flaw with our team that no player can overcome.

    I like Rex an awful lot, but that was a dumb maneuver...as proven by the rest of the 3rd qtr.

    Maybe our coaches should get back to "fundamentals".
     
  14. legler82

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    I don't know about that. I would hope for such a high risk play we would want a better match up than our 4th string WR who is a converted QB going against their 5th WR who was a converted CB.
     
  15. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I have no problem putting blame on Rex or the rest of the coaching staff at times. I also understand why people think it was dumb, and have no problem with that opinion. Personally I don't mind the risk when Hester is on the receiving end of a punt. I was hoping for a fake punt or two and an onsides kick this game to be aggressive while playing keep away. Unfortunately it didn't work out.
     
  16. Hobbes3259

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    I think this play sucks, even if we execute it.

    For that kind of risk, hitting a covered guy even when successful is way too far to go
    to keep the ball in that spot.....

    That's the same way I feel when Schotty calls a deep pass while having the Hartsock/Richardson/RB quartet on the field.

    Even when Mark hits it, it dries me f*ng nuts.

    On a Fake punt....to justify the risk at that spot on the field, you need a big gainer.
     
  17. rinvesto

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    That was as stupid a call as Ive seen. To do that at that point in the game at that point of the field was ridiculous. It cost us the game.
     
  18. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Our offense had been pretty successful so far, another set of downs had a good chance of turning into a long drive based on how they were executing. Basically I think you're minimizing the positive of getting a first down there.

    It was a big risk though.
     
  19. Deathstroke

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    They should have just snapped it short to Smith and had him run for the 3 yards
     
  20. gustoonarmy

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    At the time I hated the call and turned the air blue around me, but after my vein popped back in thought it was a gutsy call, and as I said earlier would have been praised had it worked. Yes it cost us the game , but I don't blame the CS, with risk comes reward.
    At the end of the day, we know that we could have beaten the Bears (most likely) and we are in the POs, thats all that matters.
    Lol, this board will light up if we do it again in the POs :lol:
     

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