End of the game roughing penalties

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  1. vokab206

    vokab206 Well-Known Member

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    Am I the only one who was completely embarrassed by the way the coaches handled themselves at the end? The meaningless time outs? The roughing of the quarterback numerous times? It was just disgusting, embarrassing and felt like the coaches were sore losers. Awful.
     
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    This all started with Sam being body slammed and no flag thrown. I saw plenty of cheap shots by the Broncos all game long so I don't blame the Jet D one bit for getting even. I had turned the game off by the end but if the Broncos had their QB drop back to pass with almost no time left, he should have gotten drilled as it showed no respect at all. As they say, its not the instigator but the retaliator that gets nabbed and that's what happened last night. IMO, the Jet D played stupid, but they refused to be punked in their own stadium. If Gase and his offense had half the balls GW's defense has, they would have won the game. Why shake hands? Phony sportsmanship..
     
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  3. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    "Roughing" lol okay. That was just shitty reffing throwing flags purely because a QB got hit. Don't throw the ball if you don't want your QB touched.

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  4. JetsUK

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    Why didn't Denver just kneel at the end?
     
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  5. vokab206

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    Fair enough.
     
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  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you. That was a disgraceful way to end the game. After Rypien did it the first time, was it not obvious what they were doing before McLendon goes helmet to helmet? They were throwing the ball out of bounds to run clock. College teams do this all the time. Until the ball crosses the sideline plane the clock is running.

    Gase called timeouts with only two left was bush league.

    The only ticky tack roughing call was the first on Quinnen Williams. The rest were legitimate calls.

    I understand that the Jets sideline was probably infuriated by the no call on Darnold's suplex. But they still ended up with like 7 roughing the passers. And it's been an issue all year - this isn't an isolated incident.
     
  7. GasedAndConfused

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    it was disgraceful from both teams.
     
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  8. Ehh i kinda like it.At least showed some fight.Some discontent.

    More than we can say for Christopher & Woody.
     
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  9. Jets79

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    I think some of the roughing calls on us were bullshit, especially since the slam to the ground on Darnold was not flagged....

    but I put as much blame on Fangio with the end of game play calling....13 seconds left. Take a knee or punt the ball you moron...no need to run a pass play there. That’s is a fuck you, so we hit their QB

    honestly I give the Broncos just as much fault in that one

    to be fair though, I did hate Gase calling those timeouts....pointless...just end the game, that shit doesn’t change anything
     
  10. alleycat9

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    you guys do understand who gregg williams is right? and what he stands for and believes in? he literally trains his guys to be as close to the line of a penalty as possible, to never let a guy get a free play without getting hit. to make sure you deliver punishment at every opportunity.

    it wasnt just this game, there were a bunch of penalties in each game this year that werent necessary. it will probably only get worse as things continue to unravel. i imagine the nfl will have something to say before one of the jets dl hurts a qb that they care about.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I'm not even going to make the leap that Williams instructed it or coaches it. But his defense just had the most personal fouls I've ever seen in a game and most of them on the QB. He's the bounty gate guy.

    The optics are pretty bad folks, especially for a team that's gotten their shit kicked in 3/4 weeks.
     
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  13. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Yeah I don't have a problem with it really either, until it starts drawing flags and guys are getting killed and drives are being extended. I don't even kill a team for taking the early roughing call to let the QB know they're coming (like the Basham one in the first quarter on the roll out).

    But 7? And two hit shots on the QB with 13 seconds left? From the bounty gate guy? Sheesh.
     
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    You dont think McLendon being called for helmet to helmet when only their shoulder pads touched wasn't tick tack reffing?

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    Dude he fucking clocked him lol. No. That wasn't tick tack reffing. This isn't 1996. You can't hit quarterbacks like that. And you definitely can't do it on a clock burning play.
     
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    Fangio was the idiot for not pooch punting. Its not like we could have scored a 9 point TD. He is the one that exposed his QB to meaningless hits. It was like he wanted us to just give up at the end. I cant fault the defense for going after the QB after all the ruckas last night.
     
  17. alleycat9

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    i agree, its understandable at points but 7 is too many, taking them on third downs you are getting the ball back on is essentially a turnover and its not cool at the end of the game to take timeouts to take roughing penalties. it does look childish and silly.
     
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    Well I think AG did reach a milestone with yesterday's debacle. IMHO he replaced Rich Kotite as the worst HC of the NYJ. At least his teams were prepared and were competitive but lost because they didn't have the talent...

    When you kick a FG with 1 yard or less to go that tells your players that the HC has no faith in their ability to execute which deleteriously affects their attitude.... When you play to lose you lose. AG is a loser HC and the players know it and play like that except for maybe Sam, Smith, Crowder, Maye... that is about it...
     
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    Totally beside the point, but a pass can still be completed after it crosses the sideline plane. Pretty sure clock doesn't stop until the ball actually hits the ground or something outside the playing area.
     
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  20. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Right but weirdly the ball is supposed to be spotted a the point in which the ball passes the imaginary plane in the ball carriers hands, right? I think that's how it works other than on the goal line.

    And for what it's worth, the refs are usually pretty good (surprisingly) at spotting the ball. I think some random first downs though they can be a yard off and it's actually kind of funny just seeing them say fuck it and putting it where ever.
     
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