Eagles get: 2016 1st rounder (#2), 2017 4th rounder Browns get: 2016 1st/3rd/4th rounder, 2017 1st rounder, 2018 2nd rounder. Jets cannot afford to make trades like these for sure.
Glad we didn't do this. I'd much rather have Cook or an impact rusher/tackle at 20 than make a trade like this.
Mark off any chance at Wentz or Goff for us. Eagles essentially swapped 1st's and 4th's In the end gave up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Kiko/Maxwell (to Miami) for a QB.
I'd like it if the Browns went all offense this draft. They'd still have a losing record next year but it would be all in shootouts. Elliot in the first. Top wr in the second. Ol in the third
I don't see many superstars in this draft. I think you can get a lot of good players that can help out your team, but no prospect in this draft is worth mortgaging the future to get.
The big winner in these 2 trades might be the SD Chargers now. As, I'm presuming, both QBs will go 1-2, and they dont need a QB, they essentially have a number 1 pick as they have their choice of any player in the draft now. Also- Tunsil could fall now. SD might take him but if they dont? I dont think the Cowgirls and Jaguars would as they have good tackles already. Baltimore would probably take him at 6. Maybe the Jets make a move with the Cowboys or Jags with the Mo Wilkerson piece to acquire Tunsil?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ls-from-teams-interested-in-no-3-overall-pick Chargers now are interested in trading the pick. What does this say about the prospects in this draft?
Rivers and Flacco both got hammered last year. No way one of them doesn't make the pick. The only way Mo gets us into the top 10 is is we give up a pick too. Mac wants his picks. I don't see us giving up any picks.
Good move on the browns part. Go all in on rg3 this year. If it pays off you have 2 1sts next year to build around him. If he fails you have ammo to get watson next year, either with there natural pick or 2 high picks to trade.
So with nothing better than RG3 on the roster, the Browns looked at the idea of drafting Goff/Wentz at 2 and said..."nah". And the Eagles went all-in with Bradford on the roster. I'm not sure which one of those things is crazier. Or maybe even neither?
I'll repost this here: I look at it statistically. What are the odds that the two top QB prospects in any draft will actually become franchise quarterbacks? For every guy that pans out (Cam Newton-1st overall pick, Andrew Luck-1st overall pick, Peyton Manning-1st overall pick, etc), how many guys have there been that didn't pan out (Ryan Leaf-2nd overall pick, Tim Couch-1st overall pick, Akili Smith-3rd overall pick, Joey Harrington-3rd overall pick, Jemarcus Russell-1st overall pick, etc)? I mean, even forgetting about the guys who were flat-out busts, how many former top QB prospects ended up being worth a trade like this? For example, even if one of these guys turns out to be Mathew Stafford (1st overall pick), that would be a huge disappointment and worth no where near all of the picks traded away by either team. My main point here is that drafting a QB at the top of the draft is such a gamble, in and of itself, that to trade away a shitload of picks and draft one just seems patently insane to me, barring the rare "can't miss" Andrew Luck/Peyton Manning prospect. And, even then, there really is no such thing as "can't miss." I don't know, I think what Philly just did is preposterous. It is very likely that either the Rams or Eagles will be monumentally disappointed 3-4 years from now. And, to be honest, it's probably more likely that both teams will be disappointed than it is that neither team will be.
Odd. This is not the year to sell the farm to move up for a quarterback. These guys are average first round QB prospects at best in any given year. This also means Lynch is likely gone before 20.
I haven't watched either of the top QBs play, so I'm just relying on these pundits, but assuming Wentz is the franchise QB he's been made out to be, this is one of the dumbest trades ever by the Browns. Franchise QBs are incredibly hard to find.... Incredibly hard. If you don't have one you can't win, and 3/4s of the league is trying to get one. Teams like the Browns have been searching for years with no luck. They don't grow on trees and you're not going to get one if you're not at the top of the draft these days. The Browns are actually, for the first time in a while, in a position to get a franchise QB and they trade that opportunity away? Are they serious? I don't care how many picks they get in return, it will never be enough to trade away a franchise QB. Now, if Wentz is not the QB the pundits say he is, great job Cleveland. But man, what an enormous risk they just took that could turn out to be devastating. I can't help but think that this is the moneyball mentality at play here. Moneyball wasn't about winning a championship, it was about how to get the most wins for the least amount of dollars. Sasha couldn't help but seeing the "value" in trading one pick for a million picks, because they already have QBs who are decent enough to keep them average, so they can "get by", but that is not the way to win a championship. This will be interesting to watch. The Browns better pray Wentz turns out to be garbage or else their fans may literally revolt. About the only saving grace seems to be that if they completely whiff on this, they probably have the ammo in picks to give away next year and be on the other end of this trade if they want.
