38. NEW YORK JETS (f/WAS) Kenny Irons Curtis Martin's career is over and while he did a solid job Leon Washington's not a workhorse. 57. NEW YORK JETS Ikiaka Alama-Francis Extremely intriguing prospect to develop as the long-term replacement for Kimo von Oelhoffen. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockround2.html How likely are these picks? What about Alama-Francis, I havent heard much about him.
NFL Draft countdown has been pretty accurate in the past. That seems to address the need at positions, but im not exactly sold on Kenny Irons scouting report. There should still be some very good quality players left at 38, so it might be better to select the best available player left at one of the many positions we are lacking at.
Should be a thread on Francis around here somewhere: he has a pec injury at the moment, so it is doubtful he'll be able to workout properly before the draft. I think he is seeing a specialist about it this week to decide if he requires surgery or not. Francis is a talent at the position, and he has good pedigree (his Dad was an NFL QB). The biggest crosses against him are that he's put on a whole heap of weight in a fairly short time; in other words you wonder if he is really built for the position. He has excellent intangibles and is a producer at the position. I think on Kiper's board he had him in the top 25: that will have to change though given his injury. The talent at OLB/DE is fairly deep in this draft considering the number of FA at the positions and that quite a number of teams are set at the positions. He could be a real steal at 57.
No way we take a back that is a scat back like Leon. The jets are really pleased with his performance and they would probably like to add a guy who is versatile, yet compliments what they already have on the team. If they draft a rb at all, they will take a bruiser.
I abhor Kenny Irons. Give me Bush or go in a different directions. Don't force feed us crap because we need a running back.
What about Lamar Woodley, wouldn't he be a really nice pick at 38? It should be hard to pass up on him.
There's some shockers at the end of Round #2 in this mock...namely Bush, Abiamiri and Samrdzija. If this is how it played out, I'd probably go woth Pitcock or Willis in round 1, and Beekman and Bush in Round 2.
I think many people would be pleased to find Bush available with our 2nd pick. Would be a great complement to Leon.
sorry, I posted a new thread on this when I saw the revised first round. Hopefully it'll get merged before I'm flamed into oblivion. :sad:
Is it just me or does this mock draft now have the Jets taking a DE with their first and third pick (Round 2b)?
in the first round this guy has us taking a pass rushing olb. didnt we just sign brian thomas to long term. and he said we have no depth at cb which is imo a crock of shit. while nobody really stands out i think dyson barret miller poteat and coleman provided adequate depth.
well the three positions i want addressed in the first 2 round this draft are DE, OLB, and RB. im pretty sure everyone agrees with me. the only position we should spend money on this offseason should be CB because they are such a crapshoot in the draft and we should only go after asante samuel only because of the combination of his age, skill, and prior familiarity with eric mangini. now i want to discuss the players i hope we can grab and why i think this mock draft does not make sense. adam carriker going to the broncos at #21. no way do the broncos pick a DE in the first round. they really needed a safety before the darrent williams tragedy and now need a cornerback. if nelson and landry are both off the board, they will pick a CB since it is their biggest need. especially with the abundant amount of them in this draft. they will not pick dline. also, carriker would not be a great 4-3 DE since he lacks the initial speed burst that an edge rusher possesses. he is optimal to be a 3-4 DE which is essentially an undersized DT, which he would fit in only 6 teams in the nfl. chargers, patriots, cowboys, browns, and steelers. only the steelers and browns need to get some Dline help for the future, but the browns will not take him at 3, maybe 35 so we need to scoop him in between. the steelers could take him, but it might be a reach since it's not an immediate need like it is for us. so i hope its carriker at #25 for the jets. micheal bush going to ravens at #61. ravens do need a RB and it was stupid of them to let go of chester taylor. same type of deal with us letting go of lamont jordan. both wanted a big payday and both teams held on to the past for too long. they do need a RB to replace jamal lewis but i there is no way bush slides all the way down to the end of the 2nd round. he will definitely go top 50 at least, and probably moreso in the beginning of the 2nd round. i hope we snatch him at #37 because he would enable us to have a sick RB tandem with him and washington. so i hope its bush at #37. jarvis moss going to the jets at #25. though an OLB is definitely a need for us, its not the primary need. our primary need this offseason is actually Dline, RB, CB, Oline, then OLB. i hope we do not use our first pick on moss, since this draft is SOOOO deep in DE/OLB tweeners. the guys i want to draft are either lamar woodley who nfldraftcountdown predicts will go to the rams at #45. no way do the rams draft woodley to play DE. he cannot play the 4-3 DE or the 4-3 OLB effectively. its just not his position. anthony spencer is predicted to go to the steelers at #48 which would be a good pick for them. so i hope at #57, one of these three, woodley, spencer, or moss will drop. we might as well make sure we get the players that the draft does not have much depth in, 3-4 DE or RB, and then take our chances on an OLB that falls to #57 which isn't that far to fall mind you. optimal but realistic situation would be to get carriker at #25, bush at #37, and spencer at #57. that would make it 2 great draft years in a row. probably the first in the history of the jets.
Jarvis Moss would be an absolute steal at 25 and a perfect fit for this defense. With Thomas and Moss, the offense can be left guessing which side the pressure will be coming from (peppering in the inside rusher), and he has the height that this defense needs on the perimeter. BT and Moss would be a tremendous combination on the outside. We can move Hobson inside where he fits better. The current Pats team notwithstanding, the traditional 3-4 depends on its OLB's for pressure, and Moss/Thomas would give the Jets a pass rush to be envied. That said, I think Moss will end up going much higher; top pass rushers almost always do. I agree that Bush would be a much better choice at the top of the first round. I'm also a huge fan of Brandon Merriweather at safety, but I'd love to see an offensive lineman in the second round. Ben Grubbs is a beast; if he fell to the top of the first, that would help the Jets' run game as much as a RB. Arkansas' Tony Ugoh would be a great choice as well. If the draft goes like this, I like Moss first, Merriweather second, and Michael Bush third.
Who would be a better selection if both were available at 25: Jarvis Moss or Lamarr Woodley. I thought Woodley would be a better pick, but I'd like to hear some other opinions.
moss might be sick, but that is not even our first priority this offseason. granted, once we make some moves in FA, we will know what positions are filled and who we need to draft. but if we want to get a young stud, we have to take carriker with our first rounder. then micheal bush with our first 2nd rounder. no way he lasts past that. he might not even make it out of the first, let alone end of the second. i actually liked meriweather also, not to mention he is sick in the NCAA 07 game, but he is a punk. i thought he could be our sean taylor but he seems to be streaky as far as production. not to mention that we don't even need a safety and that it is much deeper than the RB class. this draft is so deep in DE/OLB tweeners that we have to take the chance that one of them will fall to #57. carriker is the only good 3-4 DE except alan branch, that could start. micheal bush is a huge bruising back and he is one of the few in this draft. safeties, well there are a ton and we have good ones anyways so that's not a need. if all the OLBs are gone, i wouldn't mind taking ugoh or sears with our 2nd 2nd rounder. so that would be carriker, bush, and ugoh which would be nice and make our team that much tougher.
Safety may be a deep position, but that logic led to the Jets taking McGraw in the second round and passing on Reed in the first. Merriweather is a rare talent--a punk by association in Miami, but a leader, a ballhawk, and a hard hitter for a relatively small safety. I like Erik Coleman, but it's silly to say it's not a need if Merriweather is the special player he seems to be. If the U had a QB and therefore won some games, he'd be right up there with Nelson and Landry as the top safeties in this draft. And don't think Mangini didn't enjoy having a punk like Harrison policing his secondary. Everyone has fallen in love with Carriker, and I like him too, but most mocks have him gone by the Jets pick. I firmly believe Moss will be taken before him and the Jets won't even sniff Moss, but if he's there and the Jets can build a team strength at OLB/pass rusher, you do it and fill holes later.