If Pennington is on the roster at the time of the draft the Jets will not take a QB in the first round..they will probaly take Brody Croyle(sp) in a later round. The first round will then be BPA which will likely be AJ Hawk. If Pennington is gone it will be Cutler or even Leinart.
How will it be Leinart unless we trade up? Leinart would have to break his throwing arm to fall to us.
The Jets are making an offer to Chad to reduce the cap hit. It should have not impact our draft at all. I can't see Chad at his age and at least a year away from rehabing enough to see action ever being the starting QB on the Jets again.
We arent drafting hawk, I hate that everyone is thinking we will.....I just dont see it happening its gonna be a QB or Ferg.
This is correct, IMO. The one issue has nothing to do with the other. If Chad restructures, how does that eliminate our QB needs? It doesn't. All you've got is a restructured, severely injured QB on your hands who helped out the Cap by restructuring. Now, somebody else still has to take the field. But more important, somebody needs to be groomed to take over the starting position. One fantastic RB and three excellent QB's available in the first round and we're sitting at #4. Hmmm... I wonder what we'll do? This should not be a difficult choice, fellas.
'We' huh. Did you have a meeting with the GM or something? How do you know what they would do if Chad stays? Why not Hawk, especially if the Jets go to a 3-4 defense? Decent QB's and good O & D lineman can be found in the middle rounds. The only position that does not have much depth is CB, which is a position the Jets need to address since Law is gone.
I believe you and Winston are correct. The only thing that Im thinking is that you have a defensive philosophy being brought in. The defense is more complete than the offense..getting the defense to where EM wants it to be will happen a lot faster than the offense. Adding a super linebacker to play with Vilma would pretty much complete that position for years to come. Since this is a rebuilding process and unless EM/Tannenbaum are completely sold on Cutler, I wouldnt be shocked if they turn their attention to a different position, whether it be offensive line, running back or linebacker. I do agree though, Penningtons health will have no input into the final decision.
It can happen, and actually, we're okay either way. I think the #4 overall pick has increased in value due mostly to Cutler's rise, not that Ferguson isn't a desirable commodity also. He seems to be promoting and projecting himself pretty well at the combine right now too (Ferguson, that is). So, even if we use our pick at #4 or we trade down, we're going to be doing well. I'm okay with using the #4 right where it is and I'm okay with trading down, knowing it's viewed as a more valuable pick now than it was, say, a month ago. Can't wait for late April...
Typically outside linebacker is not considered an impact position. We need a player who will be great in a position that will sway the flow of the game. A quarterback has the ball in his hands every play. A left tackle protects the QB's blindside during pass plays. A running back will get the ball 20-30 times a game. How many plays is an outside linebacker going to have in a game? Ten tackles is a good game. There is not the same amount of impact at that position, and with our offense in such a bad state, I don't see us not addressing it with our first pick.
Do U wise people realize that NOBODY will know #10 condition until JULY when he will be allowed to test the shoulder?
What are you smoking and can I have some? I would be HIGHLY pissed if the Jets went defense in the first round again. We have dumped all of the top draft choices into the defense the past few years, it is time the offense is addressed and given a shot in the arm. CB is the only position without depth??? Mawae might be traded/released, Fanini is gone, Kendall is old and might be released. And who do the Jets have as back-up O-Linemen? Goodwin? Chrebet retired and Williams was released. So the Jets have Coles, Cotchery, McCareins, and no one else at WR. The D-Line and safety positions are thin. Depth has been neglected at the majority of the positions. Another Bradway legacy.
It's not about his condition we're talking about, it's about his status on the team. If they can't come to the agreement, who knows he could be cut.
OK naturally I thought you were talking about his ability to chuck the rock. The rest is all silliness since it is just plain sheer speculation
I vote Cut him... then try to resign him to league minimum... somehow, I think that will be solution that come to pass... Ellis
This is a much worse situation than restructuring. He'd count 12.45M on this year's cap. Not to mention he can get league minimum with any team. I think any team would take a shot on him for league minimum. It wouldn't cost them much. If he can't do it in training camp 2006, they can put him on IR and it costs them 450K.
I'd rather get it overwith... we should just deal with our cap this year. This way next year, we're in a great position to get competitive again in a hurry, instead of trying to be also rans this year. It would be a good BUISNESS decision, somthing that seems to be lost on many a fan. sometimes it will get worse before it gets better, much to the shagrin of the faithful Ellis
if he and the jets do indeed come to an agreement with chad in the draft, IMO it would make the most sense to trade down and get deangelo williams and then maybe winston justice or max-gean giles. and then in the third round get brodie croyle. I think we should go with cutler/young/leinart only if chad is gone, not worth having a multi-million dollar qb sit on the bench(chad or the draft pick)
WHATTT????? Everything you say in this post is incorrect. First of all, the Jets can't cut Penny. It will be a huge cap hit, and i think they are ready to give him one more shot. So if the Jets have Penny, they will take Brody Croyle? This is like Joe Namath with not just gimpy knees but gimpy legs and gimpy chest and all that. This guy is like injury machine. Remind you of anyone? I don't think there is any question that if we don't take a QB in the first round then we take D'Brick. Its the biggest need. Even if Penny is on the roster I would not be at all surprised if Cutler was drafted anyways. And how can you say the whole draft depends on Penny? He may have a very important position, but games are won and lost in the trenches. Whether Penny is here or not does not control the draft. JEEZ!
