With Upshaw's stock slightly falling, I'm not sure if he's going to be a top pass rusher for us. Pouha is a free agent, why not? This guy killed the combine with freakish strength (225 40 times) to go along with speed(4.87 and 4.94). Rex would have a blast with this guy and he'll be a monster on the D-Line. If he's on the board we should take him
I agree that he looked incredibly fluid and fast in drills, and he is strong as a bull, but does it transfer onto the field? Is he so gifted that we bypass other positions of greater need to draft a space eater NT in round 1?
With how many other holes on the team, I'm not sure it's wise to invest another 1st round pick in the defensive line. Drafting Poe and letting Pouha go doesn't fix a problem and I'm not sure if there's a guy worth the money Pouha would get at a position of need.
Poe would make an excelent NT, but like all big men is nto going to dominate from day one. I think the only way the Jets draft him is if they think that Ellis can bump outside into DeVito's role, or they are more worried about his legal situation than a year ago. There will be equal talents at more pressing positions of need at 16.
I'd not only go with him from his obvious rise in stock, I'd go with him because of everyone else's decline. I doubt Ingram will still be there. I know the Combine isn't everything, but I really don't liek what I saw out of Upshaw and Burfict. Upshaw didn't look fluid at all. Hopefully, his pro day will reveal more either way.
You really have to love Poe. He's got all the talents of Dewayne Robertson and Walter Thomas rolled into one. Like them, he'll be a star! -X-
Poe is very intriguing, but given the other talented players that will be there, not sure if we need him. However, if Rex and the scouting staff think this kid can be the next Ngata, I'm not opposed to it. I don't know a whole lot about Poe other than his measurables being off the charts. I saw he was projected to go 11th on NFLDraft101 before the combine, so it's not like he was some 4th rounder now projected to go high.
You take guys like Dontari Poe where the Jets took Kenrick Ellis. You don't waste a first round pick on a guy who was this athletically gifted and didn't dominate Conference USA. I'm actually excited about Ellis this year. More than anyone, a guy like that could benefit from a full camp. I expect the Jets defensive line play to improve dramatically with a full offseason under their belt. -X-
He's not D-Rob for one simple reason, his size. D-Rob was 6'1" and 310 lbs coming out of Kentucky and people thought he had bulked a bit to get there. Poe is 6'5" and played at about 335 although he's now listed at 350. Other than that the comparison is not a bad one at all. Poe is quick, like D-Rob was, and has not yet proven to be able to turn that quickness into pocket-bending pressure. I think Poe would be a monster pick on 16, although I also think there are players who could be there in Trent Richardson and David DeCastro and Courtney Upshaw who would be worth more given their talent and the Jets needs. Hopefully Upshaw's combine is not indicative of him being over-rated. I guess we'll find out more about that by his Pro Day.
Well it would certainly be possible to replace Pouha via the draft, and use the money Pouha would command to sign a solid safety. I mean this is all moot since I think there's not a chance in the world of Poe being on the board @ 16, but if he is then sure why not
That's true, but in theory you're using your 1st round pick on a safety who's impact would be debatable looking at the FA crop.
But in reality you're getting a dominant NT for 5 years, and one of the best FA safeties on the market for at least 4 years. That combined with an OLB like Curry in the second, and you have some pretty solid upgrades. Especially since Poe looks like a 3 down guy, unlike Pouha who is a 2 down one
There is no suggestion, aside from workout numbers, that Poe was dominant, nor that he is in fact a three down player, nor that his three downs would be better than Pouha's. If measurables were what made an NFL player, Walter Thomas would be at his third Pro Bowl. The similarities besides Poe and Robertson are startling, beyond size. In the context of trends in the NFL at that time, Robertson was thought to be the next Warren Sapp type project. As teams shift back to 3-4's, Poe is the new Robertson. -X-
Add in the rookie learning curve, loss of a captain and a huge locker room character and the fact that Curry might very well be strictly a 4-3 DE and it may seem very controversial to say the least.
If Pouha wants 5-6 million + a year theres not much else we can do. Giving that kind of money to a 33 y.o 2 down NT is ridiculous, especially when the salary cap is nudging you in the ass to begin with. I still dont think its gonna be an issue since Poe should be gone long before we pick