Dolphins in the lead for Jim Harbaugh?

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  1. Mr Electric

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    I really like Jim Harbaugh, but I don't see him having success in the NFL. It'd be stupid of him to pass on that kind of money though.

    I think he's perfect for the college game and that's where he should be coaching.

    If he ends up Miami, I hope he doesn't prove me wrong.

    This guy's supposed to be a quarterback guru. I doubt he'll stick with Chad Henne.
     
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    I wish he would goto Carolina and continue with Luck, they had great chemistry
     
  3. Mr Electric

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    I'm not sure that'd be in his best interest.

    Harbaugh's done a hell of a job developing quarterbacks at the college level.

    A lot of people don't know that he coached current Buccaneers backup QB Josh Johnson at the University of San Diego before he took the job at Stanford. JJ put up absolutely ridiculous in college: 42 TDs and 1 INT as a senior.
     
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    Well that is ridiculous money to be shelling out to a coach in this environment. Ross is going to destroy that franchise imo.

    I don't think Harbaugh makes them anymore relevant right now. I am not sold on Ireland and think he may be part of the problem.
     
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    I don't know if Jimmy Harbaugh will ever make them relevant.

    I think he's a hell of a motivator and he certainly got the most out of his talent at the college level, but I'm just not sure if NFL players will buy what he's sells them.
     
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    Before all the Dolfag fans come in here bitching:

    I am incredibly high on Jim Harbaugh as a head coach. No one can deny that what he's done at Stanford is special. I'm just skeptical that he can have the same success in the NFL.

    From the beginning of these talks, I've wanted him to stay at the college level. In my opinion, he should either stay at Stanford or take the Michigan.

    I'm not going to blame him for taking that kind of cash though.
     
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    I like Jim Harbaugh as Stanford's coach. As Miami's coach, he'd be just another [word Soss says he'll ban people for using].

    Indianapolis delenda est.
     
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    I would shoot myself.

    Then I'd realize that his physical brand of football (he made Stanford into the most physical team in the Pac 10) would be centered around Chad Henne and a pair of aging RBs.

    How long until he'd convince Lousaka Polite to play both ways? :smile:
     
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    Between him and Clint Sessions, I'm finding it very difficult to name my least favorite fmr Pitt Panther. Fuck it, Polite is a [Soss will ban me].

    Indianapolis delenda est.
     
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    I agree with this. I like this guy but this just screams of Saban 2.0. He really can't pass up on this kind of money. The Dolphins are seemingly going out of their way to hire this guy. The QBs stink, and unless he's bringing Luck with him it's very possible that he could be lured by a better college offer in 1-2 years after some experience in the NFL. Ross has to be seeing this angle right?
     
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    Apparently, he's wants to make a splash with this hiring...something about keeping up with the Miami Heat.

    Bill Cowher wanted nothing to do with that franchise, so Harbaugh's the next big thing.
     
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    If he goes to Michigan, he's starting over from a recruiting standpoint with zero players who fit his offensive plans. He'll be given an unbelievably long leash, though.

    The man essentially has an NFL staff around him at Stanford already. I don't think he fails in the NFL if he's in the right situation, but he could certainly use a bit more time.

    Obviously, my ideal situation is for the two (Harbaugh and Luck) to return for one more season. At that point, they very well may be able to package themselves to whoever has the #1 pick. Carolina doesn't seem interested in Jim.
     
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    Comparing Harbaugh to Saban is absolutely moronic.
     
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    That part should be a given for anyone who goes there. I think Michigan is done with coaches who run spread offenses and defenses that absolutely suck. Anyone who goes to Michigan is likely going to be starting a true-freshman QB and/or asking Denard Robinson how he feels about being demoted to "Wildcat QB".

    Indianapolis delenda est.
     
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    I think it'd be pretty easy for him to land some top tier recruits right away.

    I'm sure he'd find a way to win some games with Denard Robinson as his quarterback.

    Rich Rod did a great job bringing in a ton of talented defenders. It's not like Michigan isn't talented, Rodriguez just couldn't do enough with his players.

    Isn't Fangio his only assistant coach with any meaningful NFL coaching experience?

    I know he hired a bunch of young up-and-comers, but they still lack experience.

    Don't get your hopes up, man.
     
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    It'd be stupid to sit Denard Robinson behind a true freshman.

    Urban Meyer handled a similar situation very well and won a National Championship. Now, I'm not saying Michigan will win a championship or even come close, but you can't bench your best player because he doesn't fit the system.

    Meyer used Tebow sparingly and slowly taught him the system. Chris Leak was Ron Zook's guy, but Meyer found a way to use him.

    You can't come in and expect to win if you completely change everything right away. That's where Rich Rodriguez failed.
     
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    Only comparing the situations. I don't think Harbaugh would have enough talent in Miami to make them even division competitors to NWE and NYJ before the college offers started rolling in.
     
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    OK, clearly that one was a hyperbole. The point was that anyone who takes the Michigan job is going to have to wait a few years before they their ideal rosters.

    I stand by my shit defense comment.

    Indianapolis delenda est.
     
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    I completely agree that the program will have to be rebuilt to fit their systems. I just don't see how demoting Denard Robinson is a smart move.

    ...and yes, they do have an incredibly shitty defense.
     
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    Maybe if he poaches some of the guys he's been looking at for Stanford. He's got a bunch of guys recruited for a drastically different system at Michigan. He'll restore a Big 10 brand of football, but they'll get worse before they get better.

    It doesn't have everything to do with talent, it has to do with systems as well. Harbaugh's not going to suddenly decide to run the spread. He'll be forced to be patient.

    He has been surrounding himself with NFL talent since San Diego. My brother in law coached for him there, but with 5 kids, didn't want to undertake the recruiting time demands of a FBS school. They've been gaining coaching experience, but they have a lot of NFL experience there.



    I harbor no delusions about the odds of either one returning.
     

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