Dolphin-bashing Monday

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  1. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Let's start with a tweet from Steelers S Ryan Clark.
    https://twitter.com/#!/RealRClark25/status/181509915062435840

    No one! To believe I almost went there but it was easy decision not to. GM RT @captmrose: No kidding! NOONE wants to go to the Dolphins!

    Now, onto the 2 other articles.

    http://deadspin.com/5894470/the-dolphins-have-spent-an-offseason-humiliating-themselves
    The Dolphins Have Spent An Offseason Humiliating Themselves

    Believe me when I tell you that I say this with zero malice: the Dolphins are a pathetic franchise at the moment. It's not so much that two weeks ago they were certain they were going to have Peyton Manning throwing to Brandon Marshall and Reggie Wayne, and now they may have to content themselves with Richard Marshall. It's how desperate and open their one-sided courtship has been, and how publicly they were turned down. The Dolphins are the guy proposing on the stadium jumbotron and getting shot down.

    It all started off so promisingly. Miami was everyone's logical landing spot for Manning because of their black hole at quarterback. When Washington made the move to get Robert Griffin III, we all fired up the Photoshop to put Manning in Teal. And why wouldn't he want to play there? We've been conditioned (thanks LeBron) to think that athletes want nothing more than sunshine and beaches and zero income tax, and he already owned a house in South Florida. Yes, a part of us knew that Manning was only going home when he flew there immediately after his tearful press conference in Indianapolis. But it was a perfect fit.

    We know now that we projected Manning as a Dolphin based solely on the cold logic of football: Miami needed a quarterback and could afford to pay Manning whatever he wanted. That's the danger of anointing any team a "favorite" before the player actually starts to decide. So maybe the media is partly to blame for getting the Dolphins' hopes up. Still, they eagerly went all in, doing nothing to downplay the hopes of their fans. It was almost as if they thought the power of positive thinking could simply will Manning to Sun Life; The Secret of NFL free agency. Ask, believe, deceive.

    So we get things like the local CBS traffic copter hovering near the airport to catch a glimpse of Manning touching down on Florida soil, and "Manning To Miami" billboards with an accompanying website (which remains ever-upbeat in the face of reality, a heartbreaking testament to hope and delusion), and even an awful song and Youtube video, the last refuge of the desperate fan.

    And yet Manning eschewed visiting the Dolphins. His cross country trip took him from Durham to Nashville to Denver to Tempe to San Francisco. Gradually he whittled down his suitors: it had to sting when the Dolphins weren't among the cuts, because they weren't among the candidates. Yes, he had a meeting with Joe Philbin and the coaching staff, but as it turns out, Manning only did that as a favor to Dan Marino.

    The Palm Beach Post reports that Miami's front office couldn't even get their calls returned by Manning's agent, let alone set up a facilities visit. As a last-ditch effort, the Dolphins turned to Dan Marino, Manning's golfing buddy. Marino called Peyton's personal phone and pleaded for some show of engagement. In the end, he got at least that face-to-face time for Philbin. But despite the fact that Manning has that home in South Florida, Dolphins brass was forced to fly to Indianapolis for the meeting. A pity lay if there ever was one, with the Dolphins flying back to Miami in their rumpled clothes from the night before, a flight of shame.

    Manning eventually, mercifully, told the Fins they were out of the running, and precisely no one should have been surprised. These are the Dolphins, after all. Peter King chronicles a decade of bizarre moves and failed gambles and wrong choices in Miami, and you should send that link to every Browns fan you know to make them feel better about their team. Though the Dolphins want to scrub the slate clean, the stink of failure still hangs heavy. "No one" wants to go to Miami, said Ryan Clark. Once upon a time he almost considered it, but "it was an easy decision not to."

    Once Manning turned them down, the Dolphins threw money at their Plan B. This Plan B has started three games in his NFL career. This Plan B also decided Miami wasn't for him. Now on to Plan C, Alex Smith, who is only looking for work because his former employer thinks it can get Peyton Manning. But if the 49ers can't close the deal with Manning, Smith would happily return to San Francisco. The Niners have added Mario Manningham, the Dolphins subtracted Brandon Marshall, and perhaps the biggest news of the offseason is that San Francisco has a better receiving corps than someone. That someone happens to be the Dolphins, but that's not news or a surprise. The Dolphins were supposed to spend the 2012 offseason reloading. And they have, but only so they can go on shooting themselves in the foot, like they've done for the last 10 years.
     
  2. Jetfanmack

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    Another good Dolphin-bashing article in Peter King's MMQB.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/03/19/signings/1.html
    In the immortal words of Vince Lombardi (sort of), "What the hell's going on down there?!"

    In Miami, I mean.

    In the last 10 years this franchise has been the most luckless, clueless, hapless club. To wit:

    Head coaches (seven): Dave Wannstedt, Jim Bates, Nick Saban, Cam Cameron, Tony Sparano, Todd Bowles and now Joe Philbin.

    Starting quarterbacks, minimum four starts (13): Jay Fiedler, Ray Lucas, Brian Griese, A.J. Feeley, Gus Frerotte, Daunte Culpepper, Joey Harrington, Cleo Lemon(!), Trent Green, John Beck, Chad Pennington, Chad Henne and now, evidently, Matt Moore. Unless they sign Alex Smith this morning, and if so, Smith would be in line to be the 14th starting quarterback in the last 11 seasons.

    Offensive coordinators (seven): Norv Turner, Chris Foerster, Scott Linehan, Mike Mularkey, Dan Henning, Brian Daboll and now Mike Sherman.

    Defensive coordinators (six): Jim Bates, Richard Smith, Dom Capers, Paul Pasqualoni, Mike Nolan and now Kevin Coyle.

    The most bizarre moves, and aftermaths, of the last decade of Miami Dolphins football -- actually, decade plus 11 days, considering that the Dolphins traded for Ricky Williams 10 years and 11 days ago:

    1. The ridiculous inability to find, develop and decide on a quarterback who could be even half as good as Dan Marino. Miami, in the last 10 years, has traded a seven for Rosenfels, a two for Feeley, a two for Culpepper, a six for Lemon, a five for Green, and used a two to draft Beck and another two to draft Henne. None is on the team anymore. None became a shadow of Marino. And Sunday, when Matt Flynn chose Seattle over Miami as the prize of a thin free agent quarterback crop, it left the Dolphins scrambling and reconsidering how aggressively to go after Alex Smith. Or hope Ryan Tannehill of Texas A&M would be there with the eighth pick in the first round on April 26. Or play with Matt Moore. Not very good options.

    2. The ill-fated hiring of Nick Saban. He was supposed to turn the Dolphins around, and be the head coach for life, when Wayne Huizenga hired him early in 2005. He went 15-17, made a horrendous quarterback decision (picking Culpepper over Drew Brees in 2006) and skulked off to Alabama after denying 613 times he'd go back to college football.

    3. The one you've all forgotten. Two days apart in early 2007, soon after Saban skulked off to Alabama (can't use that phrase enough), Miami interviewed two coordinator prospects -- among others -- to succeed Saban. The Dolphins favored offensive coordinator Cam Cameron of San Diego over Minnesota defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin. Cameron got the Miami job. Tomlin got the Pittsburgh job. Cameron went 1-15 and got fired. Tomlin went 10-6, won the AFC North and is 55-25 since, with a Super Bowl win.

    4. Trades that stunk. Ricky Williams came in 2002 for two first-round draft picks and gave the Dolphins two terrific seasons -- and five lousy ones, and one-and-a-half suspended ones. Wes Welker was made a restricted free agent in 2007, and the Patriots stole him for second- and seventh-round draft picks. Those two picks turned into one season of center Samson Satele before he was dumped to Oakland for a sixth-rounder the next year. I'd call the Brandon Marshall trade (for two second-rounders in 2010) a debacle, but they did regain two third-rounders this year. They wasted two second-rounders on quarterbacks who barely had cups of coffee in Miami -- Feeley and Culpepper.

    5. Drew Brees. Saban chose Culpepper over Brees in March 2006 because Brees was rehabbing major shoulder surgery. Ten months later, Saban skulked off to Alabama, and the 1-15 Dolphins of 2007 played with Lemon, Green and Beck. Funny thing, as I wrote a couple of months ago: On the night Miami had to make the decision which way to go on Brees or Culpepper, owner Wayne Huizenga was out to dinner with a friend and said. "I want them to sign Brees. They want Culpepper.'' Huizenga got a call on his cell phone and walked outside. When he came back inside the restaurant, Huizenga said his football people were insistent that Culpepper, for reasons monetary and football and health, was a better choice than Brees. "I told them, they're the football guys, not me,'' said Huizenga. But the owner repeated that if it were up to him, he'd have signed Brees. Miami is 37-59 since, with no playoff wins.

    Clearly, when Huizenga brought in Bill Parcells, who imported Jeff Ireland from the Cowboys, he didn't expect the disastrous personnel run that has ensued. (And the man who bought the Dolphins from Huizenga, Stephen Ross, didn't expect Ireland to ask Dez Bryant the sordid question about his mother's occupation in the run-up to the 2010 draft either.) The Ross-Ireland daily double has failed to lure Jim Harbaugh and Jeff Fisher, and has failed to land Peyton Manning or Matt Flynn either.

    When I was talking to Flynn Sunday night about why he chose the Seahawks, he must have repeated three or four times how much he liked the feeling he got from the Seahawks' coaches and front office people when he was in Seattle. He wouldn't say anything negative about Miami; he is very fond of his former offensive coordinator in Green Bay, Philbin. But clearly Flynn felt the love more in Seattle than in Miami.

    It's absolutely amazing how much failure the Dolphins have endured in the last 10 years. And the way this year is beginning -- losing out on Fisher, Manning and Flynn -- I'm amazed that Ross is putting up with it without blowing a gasket.
     
  3. GATA

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    I am a Jets Fan ... And I approve of this thread.
     
  4. xmscott

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    Lolphins............
     
  5. Jake

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    Great reads. Thank you for that.
     
  6. alleycat9

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    i still wish them nothing but bad things... it just cant get bad enough for the lolphins... i like that one xmscott
     
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    WQAM in Miami is reporting that dolphins fans will be arriving at noon tomorrow at the team facilities in Davie, Florida to form a mass protest. According to their silly site Finheaven, two radio personalities are organizing the "protest". They are calling for the GM to be fired and some will be calling for the owner to sell the team (good luck with that one). I read one of the posts which estimated that as many as two hundred fans could show up tomorrow which would be about 75 more then what usually shows up on game day.

    Here is the link to the thread.

    http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?316883-MERGED-Protest-tomorrow-in-Davie

    The fact that analyst like Skip Bayless and Matt Williamson thought the dolphins were on the verge, just makes this so great. I think this is the lowest the dolphins fans have ever been in the last decade, AND I LOVE IT!
     
  9. deathstar

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    We have been bashing em down here for years...
     
  10. Burnz

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    As dismal it may seem here nothing brings more joy then the dolphins being still that 1 team that is worse then us
     
  11. JetBlue

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    the first article lost any credibility in taking their bashing seriously when they state Miami was everyone's logical choice for Manning. it was nothing more than a glorified message board rant.

    no, nobody thought he would realistically go to Miami. they had absolutely nothing to offer.
     
  12. Corrado Sparano

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    look on the bright side Miami,
    You still have sunshine to look forward to

    LOL@DOLPHINS
     
  13. BamaZeus

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    Saban DID want Brees there, but the idiotic medical staff wouldn't clear him, while clearing Culpepper as healthy for their trade. They should be grateful that he was sniffing over .500 his first year, and almost got back to .500 in 2007 with 1-15 talent on the roster.
     
  14. Br4d

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    I'm thinking that Stephen Ross might have a bright spot out of all of this. If he can get the local radio guys to organize protests in the stadium on game day all season long next year the Fins might actually get televised locally and draw some non-protesters into the stadium also.

    Seriously, the Fins are a perfect candidate for LA. They don't have a huge local fan base, they don't draw well and there really isn't room for two NFL teams in south Florida. The Fins and Bucs don't even draw long-distance fans because the Jaguars absorb a lot of north Florida fans.
     
  15. VanderbiltJets

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    I'm pretty sure at the time that the Phins were scared off by Brees having a shoulder injury, which they perceived to be more risky for a QB than a knee injury.
     
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    Priceless...the fans of this pathetic franchise can't even protest the right way. They get a whopping 25 people standing there like a bunch of ass monkeys. Hysterical. This is truly a failure of epic proportions from the owner all the way down to the fans.

    Surprised only 25 showed up...pretty sure most of the Dolphins fans dont have jobs.

    http://campl.us/user/IzzyGould
     
  17. typeOnegative13NY

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    That is kind of promising for them though. its a better turnout than their home games
     
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    Dolphins fans protest offseason, GM bahahaha

    MIAMI -- More than two dozen frustrated fans gathered outside the Miami Dolphins' complex Tuesday to protest the way the team is being run, and the spectacle moved beleaguered general manager Jeff Ireland to act.

    The notoriously media-shy Bill Parcells protege telephoned several reporters and sought to explain a series of decisions and misadventures that have drawn national ridicule.

    "I'm not naive to the fact of what's out there," he told The Associated Press as fans protested across the street. The attempt at damage control was the latest surprising turn in a bizarre sequence of events for Ireland and the Dolphins.

    Dolphins Among the fans who gathered at team headquarters at midday, several wore bags over their heads, and others held signs that read "FIRELAND."

    Among the fans who gathered at team headquarters at midday, several wore bags over their heads, and others held signs that read "FIRELAND." They were mostly upset about a succession of setbacks involving quarterbacks since free agency began a week ago.

    Ireland insisted he's not disappointed with the way Miami's shopping has gone. He said his moves shouldn't be judged until the offseason is over, and he asked fans for patience.

    "We're only halfway through the process," he said. "It includes the draft and more free agency."

    But the protest has been a long time coming. The Dolphins last won a playoff game 11 years ago, and with a 6-10 finish in 2011, they've endured three consecutive losing seasons for the first time since the 1960s.

    It's humble stuff for the franchise of Dan Marino, Don Shula and the perfect season. And lately things have gone from bad to worse.

    Owner Stephen Ross stressed that the top offseason priority was to upgrade at quarterback, and two weeks ago the Dolphins were considered the favorites to sign Peyton Manning. They finished fourth among four finalists.

    The Dolphins were then regarded as the front-runners for Green Bay Packers backup Matt Flynn, but after visiting Miami, he opted for the Seattle Seahawks. Ireland then brought in Alex Smith for a visit, and when it appeared he would instead remain with the San Francisco 49ers, Miami signed David Garrard, who didn't play anywhere in 2011.

    "The batting average is never going to be 1.000," Ireland said. "There are 31 other teams doing the same thing. It's a very competitive environment. When it comes to the quarterback position, there are only a few out there. ... I'd rather go to the effort to add players like Peyton Manning, even if it doesn't work out. I don't apologize for going out and trying to get Peyton."

    More From ESPN.com

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    Ireland declined to say whether another quarterback might be acquired. But fruitless negotiations with QBs haven't been the team's only head-scratchers this month.

    The Dolphins abruptly traded top receiver Brandon Marshall for a pair of third-round draft picks. Then they released safety Yeremiah Bell, their leading tackler the past four years.

    It's enough to make a fan wear a bag over his head.

    "We have the most passionate fans in football," team spokesman Harvey Greene said in a statement, "and they are not shy about letting their sentiments be known. We understand and are working hard on giving them something to cheer about this season."

    While some fans took to the street, the discontent also went viral.

    "Jeff Ireland, you are the reason I am never happy," comedian and Dolphins fan Daniel Tosh tweeted Monday.

    A rogue edit to Ireland's Wikipedia entry, quickly removed, described him as "the most incompetent human being in the history of existence."

    Pittsburgh Steelers safety Ryan Clark piled on. Once courted by Ireland as a free agent, Clark took a veiled shot at the GM on Twitter, saying no one wants to play for Miami.

    "I almost went there but it was (an) easy decision not to. Not a good guy making decisions," Clark tweeted over the weekend.

    There's speculation Ireland's reputation hurts him in free-agent negotiations. Some players remember the GM's inappropriate questioning during a predraft interview in 2010, when he asked receiver Dez Bryant whether his mother was ever a prostitute.

    They Gone

    Where were the Dolphins' fans last season? Miami filled only 81 percent of the seats at home in 2011, the second-worst rate in the NFL.
    Worst Home Attendance, 2011 Season

    Team Percent of Capacity Filled
    Bengals 75.2
    Dolphins 81.0
    Redskins 83.9
    Bills 85.8


    Ireland isn't the lone target of fans' ire. There's also Ross, who courted Jim Harbaugh and Jeff Fisher for the head coaching job and was spurned by both.

    All told, the Dolphins' pattern of failing to close the deal seems to be a momentum-gathering force. New coach Joe Philbin has thus far been unable to help make a big splash in free agency, although the Dolphins did re-sign nose tackle Paul Soliai, and they signed Garrard and defensive back Richard Marshall.

    "I don't think we're done with the process, so I'm not disappointed," Ireland said. "Have we hit on everything we attempted? No. But we've brought some pieces on board."

    Ireland is beginning his fifth year as general manager, and 2012 will be his third season without the guidance of Parcells, who rarely spoke to the Miami media.

    "I want to be more accessible," Ireland said. "I don't have Bill Parcells as my boss anymore. I'm trying to improve relations with the media. You need answers to some questions."

    The way things have been going with the Dolphins, the questions are likely to keep coming.
     
  19. BamaZeus

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    The Dolphins: the only team in the league with more owners than fans
     

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