i have been really debating which RB we should take in the first round. after watching tape of both players, williams is more like LT with his shifty moves and speed while white is more like shaun alexander with a one cut, get up the field with power mentality. i originally didnt like williams because i saw some reports on how he was 5'7 and that is just way to small to be an every down back... however, now i see that he measured in at 5'10 and 218 pounds which is exactly what LT is.. all the critics said LT was too small coming out of TCU and that he will never be an every down back.. well now hes the most explosive RB in the league by far.. white would be a strong and durable back that could produce but will never have the home-run ability that williams has...what do you all think??
I think LeDale White will fall flat on his face in the NFL with reports of him not working hard enough and keeping his body in shape. Plus reports of him being immature. I wouldn't want him on the Jets. I'd take DeAngelo over White.
D'Angelo reminds me almost of a hybrid of Curtis and Tomlinson (not that I'm saying he'll ever reach their level by any means, but he is similar in ways to both). I'm leaning more towards him as I think Lendale is suffering a bit from USC overhype (some boards have him going as high as 5).
well i was just watching some clips of williams at the senior bowl and his speed and moves look game-changing.. my favorite player is LT and if he is anywhere near that kind of ability then we need to take him.. he has already proven that he is dominant during college setting records left and right.. that shows that he already is durable and can be productive...
Well, Lendale White is a full-sized back who falls forward and hits the hole with authority. He has superior feet for a man his size and good vision, and he doesn't have much wear on his tires. DeAngelo Williams has superior quickness and vision, but he has inferior size. I am very interested in his speed and agility numbers. His lack of height and weight is more of a concern to me than LenDale White's "propensity to get overweight." By the way, people might knock White's weight, ,but it didn't seem to have too much of an adverse effect in the National Championship, when he was running all over the Longhorns. That may have been his best collegiate performance. -X-
Off the field issues on the side, just my opinion, I see White as the safe pick, similiar to Curtis Martin, 2-5 yards a carry, occasional 12-20 yard run, but the latter is rare. Williams seems to be the more explosive of the two backs, the one who can break the long run for the TD, besides Lamont I can't remember the last time I seen martin break a huge 60 yard run. With that said if we do go RB, which I think we should, Williams should be the pick, our offense needs playmakers, we have a bunch of steady consistent guys, but we need someone who can break one a few times a year, I see Williams as this type of player.
The size may be an advantage but no one's going to tell me that he hits any holes with more power than Williams does. White to me is just another little back in a big back's body. People bring him up as the battering ram to Bush's pure speed, but he just wasn't. White's a mix of the two, if he was drafted as a pure power guy I don't think he'd make it. Plus, when you look at size it's really relative to the players. Williams might only be 5-8 or 5-9, but he's 220, and built like an absolute rock, specifically his lower body. I don't know how a few inch difference is going to get him hurt that much more than a 6-1 guy, if anything the 6-1 guy with lesser speed/elusiveness would be taking far more direct shots. Mix that in with the fact he's never had to carry the load himself and the maturity problems that I think are a BIG concern, and he's got issues. As for LenDale in the championship, yes, he played that game up around 150, but that was with a month off and time to prep at that weight. Playing it one game and trying to carry it for an entire season in the NFL are going to be vastly different. I think once he gets to a camp they'll push him to get it down, my question is whether it'll turn into a common occurrence.
It all depends on what you want in an RB. Williams is a guy w/ great quickness to the hole and the ability to make people miss. White is a power guy who punishes defenders and wears down a D. Agility or power, take your pick. Personally I take Williams due to his great attitude and team oriented mentality
Williams is 220 now, but he's never played at that weight. A month ago, he was about 205, and that's probably where he's more comfortable. I like his maturity, accomplishment, and vision, but I have concerns about his ability to be a 20 plus carry back in the league. I don't have any of those concerns about White, who physically, is a prototypical back. I think his great finesse for a guy his size makes him seem a bit soft, but I don't see him being another Ron Dayne. Also, can we bear in mind that DeAngelo Williams might have looked more powerful playing against inferior competition? I have great respect for how he carried his team,and I have great respect for his natural talents, but Memphis doesn't play a USC schedule. Lots of those linebackers he faced are future lawyers and accountants. -X-
no question, Williams. Your talking about someone who carried a program on his back his whole career. with White, hes not used to a Defense planning specifically to stop him an entire game. hes not used to carrying the entire load (which might be the reason he appeared so explosive at his weight). ive watched Williams in person, his long distance speed is purely amazing, he hits the hole with a passion and if he makes the first guy miss he only gets faster even after 40 yds down the field. someone else said about his body composition, being 218 at a shorter height. that does make a huge difference. his upper body is chiseled not entirely huge but completely cut. his legs are solid rock. throw in his elite agility and you have someone who will be able to do what ALL GREAT BACKS DO!!!! MAKE PLAYS OUT OF NOTHING!!!! thats what makes a good pro back
Williams is going to be the better pro IMO. That being said, I don't want us to draft a first round RB. Get one later.
lamont had around 200 more carries and 850 more yds, less TD's though. at least at one point lamont was the only RB taking the ball for his team.
if we did that thered be no point, if you draft later almost 100 percent of the time youll be drafting a "good backup" or a "utility player" if were in a new regime we need franchise players, either we address the QB situation or RB situation in the 1st rd or not at all as far as I'm concerned. too many holes to fill and a later round pick that could bolster db/DL/OL depth would be wasted on a skill player when we could just do RB by committee this yr and take a premier prospect next yr.
2-5 yards a carry gap is the difference between the worst back in the league and one of the best--that's a pretty wide gap you're giving.
220 was a bit of a stretch on my part. He weighed in at the Senior Bowl at 208, and the combine 214, I doubt he played much if any below that 208 mark. This is a kid who got the job done at the college level for 4 years, sure he didn't play against the greatest the NCAA had to offer, but he was also playing on an offense that had nothing else; his senior year they were literally starting a WR at QB. He ran over, through, and around defenses geared to stop him 100% of the time. Plus, it's not like you can really knock him for the competition. If he didn't completely dominate like he did, then there might be problems, but he took care of everything he needed to do. For White, his one time in the spotlight was against a Defense that probably gave him the least attention of the Trojan offensive attack. When the defense is gearing up to stop Reggie Bush and they throw a completely different type of back out there it's not that hard to take over. Just like people have issues with Bush, not knowing if he's a full carry back, I have them with White. The adjustment to a heavy carry load will cause just as much problems as anything else, and again, with his maturity issues I don't know how he'll respond.
