Im going to make the huge assumption that a Sanchez is gone at 17 or b, we dont want him, i think both are true but anyway, Would you rather take a tyson Jackson or Jarron Gilbert, or a playmaker like Percy or DHB, (prob gone with his 40) My personal choice would be Maclin, and if hes not availibe, then a de, but I would love the hometown hero Britt, just not at 17
3-4 DE: I'd take Jarron Gilbert and Evander Hood over Tyson Jackson...(We'd have to trade back to get the best value out of the pick though) If we draft Harvin or Heyward-Bey I will be incredibly pissed -- neither is a #1 receiver. I want Hakeem Nicks if we go for a wideout - Britt is close behind. Maclin has potential, but it will take him at least half a season to learn a pro-style offense. Sean Smith's chances of becoming a Jet have become smaller with the Lito Sheppard trade - unless the Jets' coaching staff views Smith as a free safety.
WR is a much more glaring need and value will be much better. Hakeem Nicks is my favorite WR in this class as he is polished and NFL ready and shows many similarities to Anquan Boldin. I would take him over Maclin, Harvin or Britt quickly. And if Jarron Gilbert is there in the 2nd for us, which I doubt, then it should be an easy choice. If we sign Jim Leonhard and acquire Lito Sheppard then I'd trade up with our 3rd round pick to get Gilbert near the top of the 2nd. That's my ideal draft..
I think I'm doing a pretty good job as GM of the Jets over on my mock site. Leigh Bodden and Lito Sheppard are both 27. Which one would you trade for for the same value? Smith will be great in the NFL but he won't be the pick. I hope we sign a safety - Sean Jones is still available and he'd be an animal next to Rhodes. James Sanders is also available and he is a Pat and only 25. 1) Top WR available between Maclin/Nicks/DHB/Britt 2) Top DE available between Gilbert/Hood(/Moala too if both are gone)
We should go which is the best available but it wont be a DE. I Think we should go the Wide Receiver route and draft either Maclin if he's there at 17 or Nicks from the Tar heels, He has some big play making ability and great hands.
WR for me. Maclin and Nicks are more sure prospects at their position than any DL after BJ Raji, thats just my opinion though. Nicks is the most NFL ready reciever ive seen since Fitzgerald, sure that wasnt a long time ago but Fitzgerald is also panning out to be a once a decade type guy if he shows consistency. Maclin is just, wow, its rare you find such a gifted athlete being such a high character guy I'm surprised more people dont know his story. that being said point blank hes a more raw product than Nicks but thats scary being that since hes coming out as a sophmore he only has so much room to improve upon what is already a talented skill set. and with people jerking off over Crabtree i think Crabtree might end up the 3rd best WR instead of the 1st which he will probably be drafted. either guy cant be wrong in my book. I love stuckey in the slot and clowney as a deep threat but these are two recievers who I think could step in and contribute right now. and as a darkhorse I LOVE, i mean LOVE Kenny Britt, its finally good to see a fuckin big reciever actually play like a big reciever, hes the atithesis of DHB. and i mean that as a compliment.
I think DE, for this reason. There will still be good WR by our second pick. There are 7-8 good receivers in this draft, not counting Cook from South Carolina, who can be a hybrid and play both WR and TE. That leaves it at Gilbert or Jackson to me. Big drop off after those 2 to me.
I think given the draft and our needs, WR is the better choice. We've got a decent DL right now. Maybe a mid or late round choice to develop would be helpful. But with Coles gone, we've got a hole at WR. And most of the top names should be available to us at #17. Nicks is my top choice. He just looks like a stud waiting to happen. Maclin is also great, especially considering his special teams ability. I'd pass on DHB - he's got speed but not much else. Another guy to consider if we traded back in the round would be Robiskie. That kid is going to be a solid WR in the NFL for many years. And the Combine showed he had a lot more athleticism than people realized. I don't think he'll be a #1 but he's the most ready now for contributing to a NFL team. I wouldn't look past him if the Jets traded to the end of the first.
...not true. The starters are solid, but there's no depth. The Jets have two decent 3-4 DEs and the best nose tackle in the game. After that, there's nothing. I don't want to see Mike DeVito on the field ANYMORE. In a position played by guys that are so heavy, you need rotational players to keep them fresh. Jarron Gilbert would give this team the most value right away. Evander Hood is close behind... If a wideout is taken in the first, the FO has to make sure they land some 3-4 defensive linemen in this draft.
I agree a team can never have too many DL for rotation and depth. But when I look at the value for DL in this draft, there seems to be a big fall off after Raji. I don't see a lot of top DL in the middle of the first outside of maybe Jerry. Most mocks I've seen have Hood as a second rounder. Do you think he's rising with his good Combine ? There are some good DE but none that really fit our scheme outside of Jackson. So looking at need + value, I can't see a great selection for the middle of the first round at DL. That's in contrast to the WR, who are right in their sweet spot of value at # 17.
WR cause there is a depth but no #1 at all, dream scenario would be to trade down as far in the 1st as possible and grab Nicks and get another 3rd rounder, or trade down in the top of the 2nd and get a 3rd. Coleman is solid but he does need to be replaced, hopefully Gilbert can be there in the mid to late portion of the 2nd but his stock is rising unfortunately.
I've been saying that a great combine will push Hood into the late first for a long time... He ran in the 4.9s and did 34 reps...he's much more athletic than people know. I'd like to see the Jets trade back at least 6 to 8 spots and take either Hood or Gilbert. Gilbert's height would be ideal in the 3-4, but Hood has better strength and a better motor.
My thoughts are lets solidify the D-line and Defense in general for a long time to come lets have a D that has to be Reckoned with one of those D's that hit hard and people think twice before going over the middle ....
I'm going to disagree. After the top handful of WRs, there is a big dropoff in talent and there's a good chance none will be there in the 2nd. We are much more in need of an NFL ready starting quality WR then defensive line depth that we might have to reach for.. Here's a wildcard: Offensive line in the 2nd. Defensive line in the 3rd. Alan Faneca and Damien Woody are in their 30s and we should be thinking about the future there. Plus we really need depth too.
I agree. I'm not sold on spending 17 money on somebody we aren't sold on. Trade back, get an extra pick and get somebody you're comfortable with.
