Given the great possibility that we willl draft D- Brick, I would like to see your opinions on whether it is EVER worth it to use a top 5 pick on a tackle, or any position on the O-line.
Jets did it twice in back to back seasons '78-'79. Marvin Powell and Chris Ward. They were a key part of our early 80s success that should have led to a Super Bowl in '82.
i would say yes simply because when a great athlete like D'Brick who has a brilliant football mind and can really play...gives his all and knows football like the back of his hand...for that kind of player...yes. But the olineman has to be ELITE. And it has to be a need on your team. BUt yes, it can be worth it.
If Leinart and Williams are gone when we pick then we take D'Brick, simple as that. My only concern is that this draft is so deep at OT, and even if we take Mangold at 29 there will certainly be a great OT at 35 be it McNeil, Winston, or Scott.
Of course...IMO other than QB, OL is the most important position. If there is a stud LT coming out (Like D'Brick) I wouldn't pass him up unless I had bigger needs. If you guys draft him that wouldnt be a wasted pick at all.
No and the odds of us drafting d'brick are slim to none. It just doesn't make any sense to replace a position that doesn't need any fixing.
Definitely. However this year it wouldn't make sense for us to do this with all our other needs and 2 more picks in the top 35 to fill the OL with.
It's very rare to find great tackles in the world but if you find a great one it's definatly worth a top 5 pick. Is Ferguson one of them? Who knows. But don't forget this game can be won in the trench's evident of the Giants in the 80's, 85 bears and the Ravens a few years back. With the forth pick, get the most talent because I'm sure we have a hole there.
If Walter Jones, Orlando Pace or Jonathon Ogden were available then I would use the first pick on them. Unfortunately D'brick is a finesse undersized pass blocking LT. Not a gigantic mauler who dominates almost every opponent. That is why he should not be a top 5 pick.
Yeah, I know OL is our biggest need, an idiot could figure that out. We have 3 holes on our o-line, RT, G, and C, not LT! Adrian Jones is our LT and a fine one at that. You NEVER replace a position that is filled and in good shape. Jones did a great job at LT last season and can only improve, and he costs use little to nothing! Draft o-line later in the draft, not #4. You need a playmaker that early in the 1st round. Not a wasted pick on a position that doesn't need fixing.
Unfortunately you haven't a fucking clue what you are talking about, since it's general knowledge none of them are "mean" streak guys. The "meanest" one when playing on the field is Pace, and even he's not crazy. Ogden is the "nicest" out of the bunch,, and add-in he's out of shape and has now been exposed at LT, so much so that now everyone realizes the Walter Jones mold is the way to go. Hmm, 6'6" 312 (without a pro strength and conditioning program, for a guy who actually probably went to class and put effort into his schoolwork) is really undersized.
That first line was really uncalled for. As for the rest of your post, I don't think he's talking about a mean streak at all. He's just referring to pure size when he's talking about a gigantic, mauler type. D'Brick isn't someone who's 330-350lbs that's going to beat you by just outmuscling his opponent. Has nothing to do with having a mean-streak. He's just referring to the fact that he's not a huge LT.
If that's what he meant then he really has no idea about what's coming out of his mouth, because Jones and Pace are barely bigger while in the NFL, than a guy just coming out of college (ps: the big LT...ie: Ogden, is not regarded as elite anymore because its been proven on the field in the last two years that the Jones size/skill guy can lock down his side, where the guys Ogden's size have trouble when they cant actually have a hold of the guy...not agile or quick enough)
D'Brick 6-6 305 (at his recent pro-day) Walter Jones 6-5 308 Ogden, Jonathan 6-9 345 Pace, Orlando 6-7 325 Just so people have the numbers to compare
