MW will not be traded and Flacco will be released or traded. No one is picking up Flacco and his contract. he’s 37. JD and Saleh is just hiding MW because they need to keep him around. Simple math equation. He’s 27 and a good long-term BU for the team. Plus, Zach is a very big question mark.
So back to Mike White. He's been a back up or 3rd stringer his entire career. In other words, he's been on his own. No team has brought in a QB-Guru to help develop their back up players. 99.9% of the attention from coaches, trainers, and assistance is focused on the STARTING QB, as it should be. MW might get one series at the end of practice with the 3rd string offense while the HC is on the other side of the field talking to reporters. In other words, no one really knows what we have. And we probably never will. Without a full TC as the starter with all the attention that brings and with all the 1st string players to throw to, we will never really know what MW has. That pretty much goes for every BU QB in the league. Pointing to 3 games in the middle of a season as some kind of full assessment of his talents/ceiling is close to pointless. BUT his 400 yard game coming off the bench as a BU for his first start ever was HUGE. Only been done once before in NFL history. To dismiss that accomplishment as meaningless b/c he struggled the week after against the #1 defense in the league is nonsense. For this year, Flacco is probably the better BU for ZW and for the team. He's not an old, washed-up player. Heck, he's almost a decade younger than Brady who just won a SB. But if keeping Flacco means losing Mike White, I might just keep MW instead. He's probably better for the long term.
The blinders imposed by sunk costs are really destructive. When teams have honest competitions at the QB position they are often surprised by what emerges from the chaff they think they have on the roster. However these honest competitions tend to happen when new regimes take over in the absence of a highly touted but already sunk cost. Think the Rams with Kurt Warner coming out of nowhere to star or the Seahawks with Russell Wilson. One of the things that has hurt the Jets repeatedly over the last 15 or so years is their tendency to grab a young QB high in the draft, put him on the field right away and then take much too long to realize that gifting a young QB a job is generally a negative thing in the NFL.
What are you talking about. Kurt Warner did not some QB competition. The starter got hurt. Wilson was drafted by the Hawks in thatvthey stile in the 3rd round. Flynn always sucked and Wilson was gifted the job. Please give better examples where "honest" QB competitions produced a star QB?
Fortunately I gave up on most of those comments from him. Another way out of left field example for him to drive the same point over and over. He believes Wilson is not a good QB, we should have never drafted him, he will never be any good and White or anyone else is a better choice. Damned training camp and the rest. Same tune different day, different month and possibly year since Namath left the building.
All we know is MW ceiling is the Cincy game.. 37/45, 3TDs, 405 yds, 2 ints, 107 QB rating .. and Zach Wilson is the Ten game 21/34, 2 TDS, 297 yds, 1 int, 97 QB rating Furthermore, MW completion pct is way better than ZW. Outside of the Buffalo game, he played exceptional for a first-time play caller in action. He's floor a competent backup. Ceiling COULD be a serviceable starting QB for years. ZW ceiling is still TBD. We'll know more this year.
I think Flacco works better as a back up QB and in all honesty. He's a traditional backup at this point and no threat what so ever. Mike White was a nice story and seems like a good kid, and if he can be kept then I wouldn't be against either.
No, that's why it's his known "ceiling." The difference of course is that Geno Smith has had numerous starts over a many year career, while White has played in three games and has not had an opportunity to demonstrate that his perceived ceiling should be higher.
There are ceilings and there are aberrations, by my way of thinking. If there are thoughts he'll come close to averaging close to that game over a season or career, then it's a ceiling. If he is going to have the highest INT rate in the league, while not coming close to the top game he had, then it's an aberration. And while the game made people forget about the terrible season for a few days, people also seem to forget the Jets had 280 yards after catch that Cinci game. White did not have one pass over 20 yards.
LaFleur's offense is all about yards after the catch. This is likely one of the reasons that a weak-armed rhythmic distributor had such a strong showing for 5 quarters. White did very well until an injury forced him to exit the following game during the 2nd quarter. Then he ran into the best pass defense in the NFL last season and predictably got stuffed. Not saying that the Jets should promote White over Zach Wilson but if they are going to run the offense that LaFleur wants to run the odds are pretty good that just about anybody is going to run it better than Zach Wilson. White's not the only guy that made the offense look good last year. Zach Wilson: 55.7%, 6.1 YPA, 9 TD, 11 Int, 10.3% sacks Everybody else: 65.5%, 7.4 YPA, 11 TD, 9 Int, 3.5% sacks
Misnomer. A better characterization is that it is his "minimum" ceiling. Nobody's actual ceiling (or floor) could be known until after their career is over (and even then, only if they were granted the opportunity to demonstrate it).
Of course, I am amazed the coaches have not thought of that. Zach can't play In this offense if he can't throw over the middle. It really is hopeless.
A win is win. But yea go ahead and bench while you at it Tom Brady because he didn't throw it 20 yds or more early in his career either. MW got the ball to the players fast enough in space and accurately so they could get the YAC. ZW didn't even know to throw the ball in the 2nd Buffalo game. Did you watch that game??
Lol. That's the best ceiling Yep. and it's not even that. We have to play Buffalo and New England defenses twice a year. People really ignoring this fact. ZW is probably Year 3 earliest to making us competitive based on his rookie campaign. He just can't read the field well enough yet. Gotta be honest with what you saw. MW was better at reading the field. Not the better arm, better athlete even. Tom and Peyton weren't great athletes either, but they read the field better than most.
I guess Brady's INT rate isn't a consideration at 2.9%? White's yards in the air were low so I guess he would have a low INT rate too? Nope, 6.1%, the first 33 QBs last year the highest was 3.8%.
