I'll start with the obvious: chances of us drafting a Corner in the first round are now slim to none. Now past that, I really have no clue what the Jets first round plan is now. I know some have stated that we should trade back. This could happen but I do kind of doubt it since Tanny has never had a history of trading back in a round, only up. There are a bunch of guys who, 2 months ago, would have been sitting right where the Jets were picking For my own prediction, I feel that Tanny is going to trade up in the first round because I cant really think of a player off the top of my head who would not either be a reach for 29 or would not really fill a need. Any thoughts on the impact of this trade for Cromartie?
good thread, Rhodesfan. i believe the impact is significant.....this basically takes CB off the table for us (in the 1st round anyway).....I think a Pass Rusher should be the target now....whether it's on the Dline...or a LB. Mount Cody, D.Williams, B.Graham, C.Dunlap, S.Kindle.....should all be given a hard look, IMO. OR a trade down for more picks would be an ideal solution.
This gives the Jets more flexibility to target the best player for their team. That has really been a key for the Jets in their drafts. Personally I see golden tate as much more of a possibility if he is there at 29, since CB has been addressed. My dark horse: CJ Spiller, probably won't be there at 29, but certainly an interesting possibility and won't be surprised if they make this pick. Defense is always possible, but I think this team needs a playmaker like a Golden Tate to really help the scoring, thus the defense can stay off the field longer and is put in more pass rushing situations.
I think that Tanny will do whatever he can to get us to be able to tak the BPA come draft day, that is just what he likes to do. Either BPA or get the guy he wants...he feels a lot more confident doing it knowing he has no significant holes that he NEEDS to fill. DLine/OLB/OLine/RB are currently our biggest needs...this is the order too in my opinion.
Good thread. Tanny mentioned "the draft of depth" (paraphrase) in a press conference this year.. maybe this is the year he trades out of the 1st, unless there is prospect the FO adores, and gets an additional 2nd and maybe a 4th and one more 5th.
I think the key is to trade back now more than it was 3 hours ago. We have our most pressing need now filled and likely without an elite pass rusher to be at our spot at #29, a trade back to acquire more picks is the right move. Moving to the early-mid second would allow us to grab guys who slide out of round 1, there is always one who people over think with, it was David Harris a few years ago, and this past year it was Rey Maulaluga. That guy just might be Carlos Dunlap this year... Plus our biggest need is depth at this point outside of a pass rush. I like the idea of moving down and targeting Eric Norwood in the mid second, while grabbing a solid NT prospect ala Cam Thomas with our late 2. Then with the 3 or 4 we pick up, we can grab some quality 3-4 end who slides, possibly an Arthur Jones type. By not giving up a pick in 2010 Tanny has given himself all the flexibility in the world to trade down and build depth like a mad man while going BPA pretty much every pick.
After the Chargers cut Williams, I doubt either of these two makes it to 29. The Broncos have been named as a possible destination for Williams, and do not count out the Steelers as a team targeting a NT. They just signed Casey Hampton but Hampton is nothing near what he used to be and the Steelers' DLine needs some more youth aside from Ziggy Hood.
^ I'm a Cam Thomas guy. Troup too who can be had later in the draft. One of them can be a Jenkins understudy. This is the year of the NT. Get one Tanny. Let's pick up a 4th and get Carrington. And let's trade Rhodes for a 3rd, move up/stay put, it depends, and get Chris Cook.
you're most likely correct regarding the NTs i mentioned. my hope is that if B.Graham isn't there at 29...we trade back and grab a guy like Eric Norwood in the 2nd....and pick up an extra pick or two. fuck...April 22 can't get here fast enough.
This would be the best case scenario, IMO. Our needs are now RB, DE/OLB, WR and general depth on our D/O-lines (in that order). Drafting another CB still isn't a terrible idea, just not in the 1st/2nd round. What happens with Rhodes/Rolle (if anything), of course, will also impact things as the draft nears. Just because Tanny hasn't traded up before, doesn't say to me he's unwilling or unable to do it. You're right though, 29 is now a tough spot to be in, considering many guys we'd be looking at to fill these needs will most likely still be around in round 2, some even in round 3. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go either way, up or down the draft board. I would highly prefer going down though, as I don't see anyone in the mid-1st who stand out so much that we'd be willing to trade up. In any case, "in Tanny I trust". However, I am a little concerned he's developing a bad habit of mortgaging our future (i.e. draft picks) for present needs. He really needs to start looking at acquiring some in the near future (*cough* Rhodes *cough*).
Yeah I have to agree here too...Brandon Graham is really the only guy I want now at 29 that we could realistically get and that would be good value.
I love that scenario, actually. Hopefully we can pull in a 3rd round pick and bring in Boo Robinson as a rotational NT. If Graham falls to 29 and the Jets pass then I might just run to the nearest living thing and kill it. There is no way Dan Williams falls to 28.
I think that finding a way to trade down will be a priority for Tanny IF, and it's a big IF, they don't find some guys that they feel they need to get at #29. To me, the Jets have several positions with similar levels of need, none are quite near a desperate level, but a few are close to the top. Adding even just one more pick in the top 3 rounds will give Tanny a lot more freedom figuring out those first two days.
