I just saw a ridiculous post -- elsewhere -- that said Mangini = Coslet. I have no idea what that is based on. Coslet was a failure as head coach. Coslet was 6-10;8-8;4-12;8-8. I have been a jet fan since the 70's but those 4 years -- are lost years. Can some one remind me what the complaints about Coslet were -- other thnt he didnt win? For example, we know that Kotite was not prepared and the team was an organizational mess. (Keyshawn, for whats its worth, in his book tells what a joke Kotite was). Plus, as we all know, the year they went 1-15, they were 8-8 at the half. But Coslet as a head coach is a blur to me.
I actually thought Coslet had us on the right track for a while. He took over an aging 4-12 mess from Joe Walton and took them to 6-10, then 8-8 and a wild Card in his first two years. He had some really bad luck with players and in-game stuff, there were a bunch of games I thought he had them ready to play and in position to win and something always seemed to go wrong for him. I didn't like the way he did O'Brien when they brought Boomer in but that last year they looked again to be on a roll. They were 8-5 and had to play the last three games against the two eventual Super Bowl teams, Dallas and at Bufffalo, and then at Houston who was on a 11 game winning streak. They lost all the games and he was fired, I didn't like the move. The knock was he refused to hire an OC, but at one point that season they had the #1 offense and ran into some bad weather and great teams at the end of the season.
I can't think of him without seeing Nagle. Uggh :sad: Nagle gets hurt, O'brien comes in and wins 2. What do you do? If you're Parcells, you stay with Vinny over Foley. Coslet sent O'brien back to the bench and we ended up 4-12. That's the difference between great coaches and other coaches: being willing to admit to a mistake and fixing it.
That's not really how it went. O'Brien held out of camp and always clashed with Coslet, Nagle looked great in camp, got the job and had a great first game. O'Brien eventually won his job back around November but injured his thumb a few weeks later, so Nagle came back in to finish the year.
Coslet should never have been fired after 1993. I think the Jets would have made the playoffs in 1994. Coslet did need to delegate the offense to a coordinator (which was the official line from Dick Steinberg), and he was ready to do that but got fired anyway (a mistake that blew up in Steinberg's face after the 1994 season). The Jets would have remained competitive with Walt Harris as OC and Pete Carroll as DC. Having said that, he did some things in 1993 that left me mystified. He had Boomer at QB and didn't run the no-huddle, and didn't have the shotgun either. Rob Moore also complained about a lack of a downfield passing game down the stretch. The Jets also showed a propensity for playing down to the level of inferior competition. Before those last three games in 1993, the Jets lost 9-6 at home to the then-inept Colts. They win just that game, and they're in the playoffs. Coslet had a combined winning record vs. Don Shula, Bill Parcells, and Jimmy Johnson. And a combined losing record vs. Rick Venturi, Dick McPherson, and other such chumps. They probably equate Mangini to Coslet because the Jets had a lot of "moral victories" against the Bills under Coslet.
That hits the nail on the head, he could beat good teams and always threw in that stinker, like NE in 1991 and the Colts in 93. I didn't agree with Moore, though. Think about the end of that year, they played in a couple of monsoons, one at NE a win of something like 6-3. They beat Washington in December 3-0 despite having something like 300 yards of offense, then they had to play the Cowboys, Bills and Oilers who all had tremendous defenses. There was no time for Boomer to get the ball downfield. Cary Blanchard missed a makeable FG that would have won the game at Buffalo and also gotten us into the playoffs.
Coslet's crowning achievement was beating the Dolphins in the last week of the season in 1991 to secure the wildcard spot. But other than that the Jets were rather lackluster under him as November and December rolled around. Probably because they didnot have much of a running game to rely on. The december collapses are what got him fired, same is true for Pete Carroll
He missed 3 and at least one of them was a chip shot then the Giants sign him and he's kicking 50 yarders Another big play in that game was a TD that thurman Thomas scored but it really wasn't a TD, he fumbled before he crossed the goal line and it should have been Jets ball at the 20 but instead they had a TD and won by 2 pts.
1990 they finished strong, in '91 they blew 2 home games- 1 to 1-15 Indy and 1 to a terrible Pats team but they did bounce back for that Miami win and also gave Houston all they could handle on the road in the WC game. In '93 they completely collapsed culminating w/ that humiliating loss to Hou in the final week w/ a chance to make the playoffs. I give him a pass for '92 b/c we were injury ravaged and had a 1st yr QB most of the year. We lost not one player to a career ending injury but TWO and tow very important players. It was the worst year ever for the Jets.
Also in 1993, it's hard to blame Coslet for the Eagle or Raider games. We had the Philly game won until Boomer threw the pick to Eric Allen for that ridiculous return, and the Raiders beat us when the clock somehow stopped and allowed them to line up and score the winning TD at 0:00. Not to mention Ronnie Lott, of all people, dropped a certain INT for a TD against Vince Evans. That's two wins right there, at least one.
He has to get so,meblame, we blew a 21-0 and 17-0 lead in back to back weeks BUT he also gets alot of credit for regrouping them and getting us back in the race.
True, we blew a lot of leads when he was here. We didn't finish games or seasons well under Coslet. Probably his best strength was regrouping the team after a disaster, unfortunately he had a good deal of practice. After the Blair Thomas fumble to blow the MNF game at Chicago, they crushed Miami at home six days later. After the Dennis Byrd injury they upset the Bills in Buffalo in December.
Jeez, I can't remember breakfast, and you guys remember Jet games from over a decade ago that didn't involve actual wins?
I rember that Raul Allegre kick vs. the Dolphins in 1991. I'll also never forget that 24-0 loss to Houston in the last game of the year in 1993. I think, if I remember correctly, it was win and you're in. It was also the game where Buddy Ryan and Kevin Gilbride got in a fight on the sideline. Made Herm and Bishop Harris look like a playground fight.
Yep, we needed 4-10 NE to beat 9-6 Miami and they did it then we blew it that night in humiliating fashion while Houston started Cody Carlson and had nothing to play for. Our loss allowed Houston's rival Pittsburgh to get in.
I think Coslet might have been over his head coaching from the sidelines. he used to do some headscratching stuff. Who opens a playoff game with a flea flicker?
