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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Petrozza, Feb 11, 2020.
Hmm. I guess "racist" isn't what it used to be.
What front line health workers did he blame? If you think the talking heads of the WHO are 'frontline health workers,' you are badly misinformed.
True. Xenophobia and discrimination doesn't point to racism.
your president didn’t clarify who he was talking about at the WHO.
And stripping their funding as he was talking about, would affect the front line workers just as much if not worse than the “talking heads”
The only 2 pieces of the puzzle that actually had a chance to prevent a worldwide epidemic were China and WHO
It really is amazing that people are still stuck on Trump when it comes to this...they seriously can’t get past their hatred to look at the scope of this thing
Each individual country dealt with this in different ways, and some definitely much better than others
You can bitch and moan about a specific country and their leader but everyone was getting hit hard regardless...it’s asinine to think any one leader could have prevented their country from an outbreak, short of locking down the country when the WHO was saying there’ no evidence of human to human transmission back in January
No doubt it needs reform. But not the reform Trump is advocating. Trump has been using the WHO and other organizations including NATO to monetize US companies. The WHO needs to be independent and it's not anymore. In spite of that the WHO does a lot of really good work in 3rd world countries. They were instrumental in eradicating disease through massive inoculation programs. They were on the front line of Ebola and Sars. Trump, US, European and China's drug companies have been monetizing the WHO for their own purpose.
Again US policy matters. In spite of all that it still serves a mission that needs to continue.
All the scientific models are completely failing. (And yes, they did factor social distancing into all of them)
Not surprised, just more fear mongering out of the "experts" and the mainstream media, only to come up flat. 10 million unemployed Americans will kill more than the virus.
It's more than 10 million.
They should count the suicides as covid deaths.
The impact of this thing goes far beyond those who die from it.
My heart goes out to them...but that's not gonna feed their kids.
People will say, "better safe than sorry", but those models are equally as dangerous as the virus. The response was based on the anticipated model numbers which look severely off now. A lot of people's lives will be ruined because the models got it wrong, and many more lives will be lost as well because of the models.
Plans to reopen the country must be started now in order to prevent further loss of life from the economic destruction caused.
3 people killed themselves on the 7 train just this week
Adam Schiff & Nancy Pelosi will get to the bottom of this...
Someone I talked to said one of his friends sisters committed suicide over her business.
Overall though, countries with weaker economies have shorter life expectancy, which translates to more people dying. The US economy is a lot weaker, and in order to save more lives it must be reopened by May.
The experts were wrong, the same experts who wanted everything shut down for many months and potentially until next year.
The media and the Democrats who politicized this whole thing were all wrong. The "apex week" that they were all talking about (and attacking Trump over for the last month) has fallen flat. I'm sure there are people sad about this......
Now they will have to go find the next thing to attack Trump over.
Meanwhile, on planet earth, NY and NJ are reporting record number of deaths for the second day in a row.
I'm sure MSNBC is blaming Cuomo...
But seriously...that is heartbreaking. I hope it doesn't continue.
Here's something a friend of mine from Queens wrote today-
Ambulance pace doubled today..last two days they slowed down and thought maybe we where seeing a slow down.. but judging by how many buses are rolling by i say it an up tic.. you can tell you have the live ones and who have dead ones.. live ones get sirens. Dead ones get only lights.
Good news auto insurance rates are going down as traffic accidents decrease dramatically.
Two auto insurance giants announced they are returning a total of $800 million in premiums to customers during the novel coronavirus pandemic, saying people are driving less and they are experiencing fewer claims.
Allstate pledged to return $600 million to its customers amid the COVID-19 outbreak, and American Family Insurance said it would return $200 million.
Geico gave us a $150 credit
This is all public relations for them, they don't have to give back anything but if they don't then people are going to riot and if one company does then the ones have to follow suit if they want to keep their customers
Yes as well as auto deaths.
There are some positive and benefits of all this.
As the amount of hospitalized people decrease, so will the deaths.
I think the best way to prevent further loss of life is by reopening the economy by the end of this month. I would say let the experts decide, but the experts clearly don't have a clue either, they all look wrong right now about how bad this was going to be. Giving businesses a few weeks to prepare will be good, and it also will be a relief on people in general knowing they can return to work.
I’m not really in disagreement about the validity of doing a cost/benefit analysis on all of this. But the phenomena you describe as the experts overreaction may actually be the flattening of the curve the experts said social distancing and the lockdown were intended to accomplish.
So who am I supposed to look to for guidance?
Real scientists as imperfect as they may be? or some random asshole on the internet whose hobby is promoting outrageously speculative investments?
Tough call indeed.