What are your guys' opinions of Connor Cook? The more I watch of him, the more I'm starting to like him. His accuracy is inconsistent at times but other than that I really like what I see. Everything I read says that he's the most 'pro-ready' QB in the draft because of the offense he ran and his knowledge of the game. I've seen him consistently go through progressions and make good second level throws. He was projected to be a first round pick if he came out last year, what happened? His 2015 tape really isn't anything to drop his status, I actually think he showed improvement this year. He's big with a strong arm and quick release with a good feel for the game as far as timing and touch goes. I think he's going to wind up jumping Paxton Lynch for my QB3, a borderline first round pick. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...-is-talking-about-wont-last-long-in-nfl-draft What the Experts Say Mike Mayock: "He's never been a 60 percent completion guy, but part of that is because they throw the football down the field aggressively. For instance, the second half of Michigan game I love what he did. He took a beating and kept throwing the ball and kept throwing tough passes down the field and completing them. Even though I think he was 18 for 39 that game, I liked that game." Greg Cosell: "I see him as a complimentary quarterback. He played in what’s essentially a pro style offense. I think he’s a good thrower. I think there are times he gets on his front foot a little too much. If you give him a good run game and if he has good weapons he can run your offense. " Gil Brandt: "Cook looked a lot like Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater -- who ultimately went 32nd overall in the draft -- when he was at the NFL Scouting Combine in 2014. Cook's arm is slightly above average; it's not weak, but it's not exactly strong, either. The Michigan State product did not look very good in Indy, but his winning record (34-5 in three years) is just too good to ignore. He should be good in a West Coast-style offense, and I feel certain someone will move up from the top of the second round to the bottom of the first to select him. He looks like a good developmental guy, someone who could sit behind an established starter and learn the speed of the game."
I would refer you to this thread by the same name: http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/connor-cook.82851/
The reason he catches flack is because he's A: Super aggressive down field B: Inconsistent with setting up his feet When he sets his feet he throws some of the best balls in the class, big boy passes. If he checked down more often he'd be well over a 50-something percent passer. If we traded back in the first to say 25-30 to take him I wouldn't be upset, he doesn't make it past very early round 2.
Sorry, I went back a little bit to look for a similar thread but didn't think to go all the way to 2014. Guess I could've used the search tool.
I honestly wouldn't be shocked if we took him at 20 or maybe even traded back a few spots and took him.... This time last year EVERYONE had him as #1 overall. It's actually a little strange how dramatically his stock fell... The thing I love about Cook is that he has an accurate deep ball and stands in the pocket and slings it. He makes quick decisions and goes through progressions in a pro style offence. The thing I'm not sold on is his character and his ability make accurate throws under pressure. Teddy is a good comparison but IMO he reminds me more of Andy Dalton.
Character issues are overblown. I do think he is arrogant in a sense, but I think it's because he wants to be great. I think you need that confidence at the QB position. He can make throws under pressure evident by the fact that he threw 16TDs to 1INT against the blitz in 2015. http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/cfb/44655/pff-connor-cooks-qb-rating-improved-v-blitz
Haha I'll join you in the fight for these last 2 weeks. His inconsistency still bothers me but if guys like Wentz and Lynch are top 10 picks he might be a better value than trying to trade up for one of these over-inflated stock guys.
Inconsistency bothers me as well. Now, I believe the inconsistencies can be fixed with good coaching. Depending who is available, I would select Cook w/ the 20th pick. If we can trade down and get him it would be even better. I don't think he's better then Lynch one bit. Goff is the guy I really like though, his footwork and ball placement ability is really good. If I had to choose between the 2, I think I would have to go with Goff and I really like Cook, but Goff is far more polished.
I have Goff head and shoulders above every other QB in the draft and then a scrum with Wentz, Cook and Lynch right after. They all have similar amounts of upside and concerns but for some reason only 2 of them are getting the hype, so if we can get better value on Cook I'm for it. There've been rumors of the Jets trying to trade into the top 10 for a QB. Goff is the only guy here worth that to me. Wentz and Lynch are questionable as being worth picks that high in isolation, let alone trading up for the opportunity.
I don't watch college football at all. When it gets close to Draft Day, I try to watch some video about QB prospects. So my opinion is crap and please pay no attention. But I somehow like this kid. Good thing is, we have Mac. I trust him. In fact, I trust him much more than any other GM we had for a while. Whoever he picks as QB for this team will be a good one. Godspeed Mac. Pick the best QB for this team without mortgaging the future.
Its hard for me to like him. Also it's hard to think about a long term option at QB knowing Gailey is getting up there in age. Gotta wonder if the QB coach Patullo (whom if I remember correctly they had a Daily News article about his connection w/ Fitz) is being groomed as the OC in waiting.
Hard to justify trading up if they only like Goff opposed to Wentz. Are they comfortable with giving the farm to get to 2 and not knowing which QB they would get? I love Wilk as much as the next die hard jet fan does, but with no QB of future and him becoming expendable due to depth and contract purposes, he should be used as a trade chip if were looking to get our franchise QB. Also strongly opposed to trading up to 6-10 for Lynch imo that would be a huge mistake. Remember we dont have a 5 and 6 round pick we have to nail the 4 picks we have (as of now).
There is a difference between confidence and condescending... I like Cook I think besides Goff he is the most pro ready and he could start for us right away. TC would be amazing with Cook vs Petty! Just like that crazy bowl game from a few years ago when Petty and Cook put on a show!
Conklin in the 1st and Cook in the 2nd is something I could get behind. I dont really "love" any QB in this draft but Cook is the only one I wouldnt flip over if we drafted him. Just not with our 1st pick. Nobody knows where he is going to go. To me he could go anywhere from 15-45 and it wouldn't be surprising. But from what Ive seen (and I havent seen much of Wentz) he has the best pro attributes. Size, skill, look, and even though college doesnt mean a lot at the next level , playing at MSU over North Dakota and Memphis makes me like him better as well. Id rather a guy that played good in the Big 10 over a guy who played great in the AAC
I wasn't that impressed with Cook in the Cotton Bowl v Alabama. (38-0 to Alabama if you didn't see it) They didn't blitz him but they pressured him all the time and his throwing was not that good and in the end he tried to force the ball and got intercepted. In my opinion, no way will he be the BPA at 20 and I really hope that we don't reach for a QB in this year's draft. We really need to reinforce the OL to protect our QB, whoever he is.
I agree with that ranking, it's kind of a scrum. Thing is I don't think any after Goff should be first round picks and after him I like the upside with Cardale and Vernon Adams the most so I would pass on Cook. I think he can play in the NFL and maybe hang on as a starter for a while but I don't think he's a franchise QB.
